Steff
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Indeed they do. I know a gamekeeper whose Halcon was redone for free when it it was warn off and ripped.
Rain gear / stalking clothes
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wildfowler.250
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Cheers guys, really helpful!
The paramo halcon seems to have come up a lot. Will look into it but if it’s anything to do with packham that’s a no.
I have heard the Yukon/kuiu stuff can wick up the sleeves to the elbows so interesting to hear that confirmed here..
little surprised none of the other names have come up like ridgeline ect. Some of the ridgeline stuff seems pretty popular but at about half the price of some of the other names mentioned on here maybe that says why?
The paramo halcon seems to have come up a lot. Will look into it but if it’s anything to do with packham that’s a no.
I have heard the Yukon/kuiu stuff can wick up the sleeves to the elbows so interesting to hear that confirmed here..
little surprised none of the other names have come up like ridgeline ect. Some of the ridgeline stuff seems pretty popular but at about half the price of some of the other names mentioned on here maybe that says why?
I've had 3 Paramo Halcons, estate issue, and have yet to have one keep me dry when the going gets tought, despite the last one going back for a factory reproof, three wears later and **** wet through, they seem to be very hit or miss, very comfy jacket but what I put on if it's going to be wet.
Paramo is good stuff I’m about to list a jacket. Managed to source a Sitka gear jacket at a good price can’t remember the model think it’s a Halcon. I paid 180 for it a few months back in really good condition. Think it is a large, if your interested send me a message better than half price.
swagger700
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Ive got sitka downpour jacket, was out in some nasty weather on hinds few weeks back , perfectly dry apart from bit on my cuffs. Have swazi tahr xp and it is as good paramo Halcon are a good jacket mine never leaked at all. As for trousers I took a punt on game stealth trousers £39 delivered from flea bay there as good as anything ive had at a fraction of the cost of the big names
As stated earlier, there is no definite answer to this question , but everyone has there own opinion. For me (living in the West of Scotland) my go wet weather gear currently consists of Harkila, Nomad and Swazi.. None being perfect in their own right, but each offering their own individual benefits.
Now that is a telling review,
what would you buy if money was no object ( it is but ) ?
Steel Rain
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Kuiu Yukon are hard to beat to be fair. If on a budget army issue mtp wet gear is really really good!
Scapegoat
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A word of warning re Halcons and Paramo in general. They will let water in under certain circumstances, most notably if you press them against your skin when it's arsing it down. That's why they have the big foam strips in the back, it's to stop the pressure from a rucksack forcing water through the material. We sold a lot of Paramo kit to Gamekeepers and the first thing they did was to wear them under their waistcoats. This isn't the way to wear them, and the waistcoat will push water through them. The same if you sit down in their trousers. You will get a wet arse. For walking or standing in torrential rain they're excellent, provided they are the outermost layer. Wear them sort of loose with an underlayer like a wicking shirt, or if it's cold with a mid layer like a fleece and you'll never feel the rain, but as soon as you press them into your body the water will seep through.
As for the company, well, they're environmentally conscious, and the Halcon is advertised as a "birdwatcher's jacket" . I don't know about any links to Packwit, but I honestly don't care. I'm buying a jacket that works from a company that cares about the world we live in. I stay dry in some of the most awful weather you can get in the UK, and I've no political axe to grind with anyone who genuinely cares about nature and the environment.
I own no less than five Paramo jackets, a Venture Smock and a Quito cycling jacket, a Halcon for shooting and stalking, an Alta for long days walking, and a windproof smock for dry autumn days. I wouldn't buy anything else. I only own one pair of their trousers, and those are strictly for walking.
As for the company, well, they're environmentally conscious, and the Halcon is advertised as a "birdwatcher's jacket" . I don't know about any links to Packwit, but I honestly don't care. I'm buying a jacket that works from a company that cares about the world we live in. I stay dry in some of the most awful weather you can get in the UK, and I've no political axe to grind with anyone who genuinely cares about nature and the environment.
I own no less than five Paramo jackets, a Venture Smock and a Quito cycling jacket, a Halcon for shooting and stalking, an Alta for long days walking, and a windproof smock for dry autumn days. I wouldn't buy anything else. I only own one pair of their trousers, and those are strictly for walking.
So the rifle sling or a rucksack strap would possibly drive water through it too?
Any one know if the fjallraven clothing work in a similar way to the Paramo .
Scapegoat
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Not if you keep the foam strips in place, and only in absolutely driving rain. Top tip. You need a neoprene sling as they’re slippery. I glued a strip of Velcro onto the shoulder of mine for the sling.
Paramo are excellent I have Halacon always kept some horrible rain and storms out - apart from if you wear a pack or rifle - you get wet there as you stop system working
Had a velez - hated it
Kuiu Yukon - I sold it was too much for me and cuffs did my head in
Love Kuiu as a brand - Peleton 240 great versatility- Kutana like the guide but with rain proof bits seems good so far, but I like the guide jacket that seems to be marmite
I was stalking in Glencoe and the stalkers there swore by Kuiu over snything else they had used - so that speaks volumes I think.
Had a velez - hated it
Kuiu Yukon - I sold it was too much for me and cuffs did my head in
Love Kuiu as a brand - Peleton 240 great versatility- Kutana like the guide but with rain proof bits seems good so far, but I like the guide jacket that seems to be marmite
I was stalking in Glencoe and the stalkers there swore by Kuiu over snything else they had used - so that speaks volumes I think.
Brighty3006
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I have Kuiu guide jacket and attack trousers. Love them. Not the best for waterproofing but dry very quickly. It's the fit that is fantastic . 4 way stretch material so you really are comfortable in them all day long.
wildfowler.250
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Cheers guys. Have to say I’m really surprised by how much paramo has cropped up. I’ve never heard of them so that’s been really helpful and the whole point of asking these questions.
Marrajack, do you find the cuffs different on the kutana? That seems to be their more popular jacket. Think the lightweight is what a lot of the Americans go for. Would you say it’s better than the Yukon? Good all seasons?
wildfowler.250
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I have heard the attack pants are very comfortable if nothing else!
Shytalk
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It’s a quest. I’ve learnt that you can never find everything you want in just one jacket, especially when it comes to stalking/intense use or duration in really adverse conditions. Pointless exercise. I’ve spent and no doubt wasted a shed load of my own money, time and effort in trying. Cheaper stuff can be good enough, but it’s cheap for a reason - as the old saying goes ‘The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten’. The buyer accepts this and just gets on with it.
I’ve got to the stage where I’ve had (and commercially sold): Paramo, Fortis, Stoney Creek, Musto, Sasta, Swedteam and bits of other stuff like Harkila, Beretta, Schoffel. All good and in reality all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
I use my own kit hard. No excuse, it’s what it’s for. Don’t get me wrong, it’s kept clean/proofed and repaired when needed to squeeze a few extra £ worth of use out of stuff. The backdrop of buying enough of the mainstream stuff out there - has led me to get to the stage where I have some scarily expensive jackets and mid layers that I use for stalking, extensive range work and almost always in bleak conditions for a fair amount of the year. Perk of living and shooting in MAMOBA (Miles And Miles Of Bugger All).
I don’t really use any of the brands I used to sell. My choice and in some part due to the mighty retail cost. I use a lot of Arcteryx kit that they sell in more applicable neutral/field appropriate colours (Alpha Gen 2, Beta Hybrid, Zeta AR and mid Atom AR/SV). It’s not silent, but not a lot of really good waterproof stuff is. That said, I got a Taiga CPA08 from Sweden and this is probably one of the best/quietest and most functional outer’s that I have. I have a Kuiu Kutana Storm Shell that I’m using hard. To be fair at nearly half the cost of the stuff noted above, it’s holding its own and not a ‘boil in the bag’ product.
Waterproof trousers ’wise bin the quest. Buy the Carinthia Gore-tex TRG offering. Rare, but you can find them in green/grey. MTP or black they appear for sale brand new often enough in online auctions.
I’ve got to the stage where I’ve had (and commercially sold): Paramo, Fortis, Stoney Creek, Musto, Sasta, Swedteam and bits of other stuff like Harkila, Beretta, Schoffel. All good and in reality all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
I use my own kit hard. No excuse, it’s what it’s for. Don’t get me wrong, it’s kept clean/proofed and repaired when needed to squeeze a few extra £ worth of use out of stuff. The backdrop of buying enough of the mainstream stuff out there - has led me to get to the stage where I have some scarily expensive jackets and mid layers that I use for stalking, extensive range work and almost always in bleak conditions for a fair amount of the year. Perk of living and shooting in MAMOBA (Miles And Miles Of Bugger All).
I don’t really use any of the brands I used to sell. My choice and in some part due to the mighty retail cost. I use a lot of Arcteryx kit that they sell in more applicable neutral/field appropriate colours (Alpha Gen 2, Beta Hybrid, Zeta AR and mid Atom AR/SV). It’s not silent, but not a lot of really good waterproof stuff is. That said, I got a Taiga CPA08 from Sweden and this is probably one of the best/quietest and most functional outer’s that I have. I have a Kuiu Kutana Storm Shell that I’m using hard. To be fair at nearly half the cost of the stuff noted above, it’s holding its own and not a ‘boil in the bag’ product.
Waterproof trousers ’wise bin the quest. Buy the Carinthia Gore-tex TRG offering. Rare, but you can find them in green/grey. MTP or black they appear for sale brand new often enough in online auctions.
I found the Guide Jacket a good fit but the trousers were very baggy and like I said don't rate the Guide the Yukon is totally different and excellent kit, Im not sure if they have changed the cuff on the Yukon but haven't had any issues with it up to now.
I might treat myself to a pair of Attack trousers
norma 308
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I really rate next pants too but Sainsbury’s ones are half the price and equally comfy for the bigger lad
Brighty3006
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Havn't you got Pheasants to look after Norma!!!!!!!!!!
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