Drone Stalking - A Modern Option?

How many were given a tractor licence by only driving it up the headland and back

how many tried to turn with out lifting the 2 leg plough and went straight on? :rofl:

third how many people on here skip the days of air rifles, pugs, first .410 few pigeons walked up rabbit etc
Know get a fac on paid stalks and do nothing else but go with a guide.
What's a two leg plough? Is that one of them grey Fergie things. Mine was a single furrow with two bloody big horses. Try lifting one of them at 13.😆 The plough not the horse.
 
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I don't think there is any problem with using a drone for stalking ethically.

When I got out I want to shoot as many deer as possible as easily as possible.

I couldn't be faffed to use a drone but if the lad thinks it will help him then crack on and forget all the judgmental types that don't like it.

If it's safe and legal I can't see a problem personally.
 
I don't think there is any problem with using a drone for stalking ethically.

When I got out I want to shoot as many deer as possible as easily as possible.

I couldn't be faffed to use a drone but if the lad thinks it will help him then crack on and forget all the judgmental types that don't like it.

If it's safe and legal I can't see a problem personally.
Hmmmm. And what do you do with the “as many deer as possible” that you hope to shoot?
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I wouldn't use one to stalk with, but would be a very handy tool for teaching how deer operate, move, eat, numbers etc
If someone did want to use one, wouldn't bother me its up to them how they spend their time/money
I wonder what sort of debate this would have cause say 20/30 years ago with someone saying "Ive just got a thermal what do you think about using it for deer stalking"? (20/30 years may be the wrong timeline but you get my point)
You can do all.of this with your eyes and binoculars.
 
Wouldn't want to use one for stalking but I can see their usefulness for deer counting.
Was involved in making a film on Roe buck stalking a couple of years ago some of the filming was done with a drone
So I can see where they can be useful just would not want to use one for atual stalking, probably for the same reason I
dont use thermal or even a range finder.
 
In two replies you said that a youngster yanik101 has to start some were which is fine.
Then some time later you told the OP he needs to get a new hobby.........!!

"I think you need to find a new hobby" was your reply to the OP!!

Hence my reply you need to make your mind up.

My point is that you have moved on from the 12v lamp to NV

So should the op be left to carry on with out being told to get a new hobby?

Quite simple.

Using NV for pest and predator control where you are basically trying to take as many rabbits/rats/foxes as you can is totally different to people who stalk, particularly recreational stalkers, using a drone to look over a hill because they can’t be to walk (stalk) it for an hour.

how long until people are using drones to herd deer to waiting guns?
 
Interesting thread , and the opinions are what I expected . It's not an issue over here , it's illegal to use a drone for hunting , period . It's covered under the same legislation as aircraft , wherein , it is a punishable offence ( as in confiscation of all equipment , truck , guns , atv' , drone or aircraft , and a heavy fine or prison ) if you hunt the same day that you were A in an aircraft or B operating a drone . NV is also against the law to use while in pursuit of big game , same punishment as above . In short , not a good idea here .
While I realise it's a completely different world here and our hunting practises differ in many ways , the thing I cherish most is being out in the quiet places and using my natural skills to get close to the animals I hunt . Not a judgement on any of the above opinions , just my own personal thoughts .
Using one to assess herd numbers , health or as an anti poaching asset is fine , other than that , I'm out .

AB
 
What do you do with yours?
If, after a grand day on the hill, I am fortunate enough to harvest a deer, I savour the day, the stalk and the shot.Then I field dress it, carefully transport it, even more carefully butcher it and with great appreciation for my good fortune reap the harvest for many meals to come. You??
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Using NV for pest and predator control where you are basically trying to take as many rabbits/rats/foxes as you can is totally different to people who stalk, particularly recreational stalkers, using a drone to look over a hill because they can’t be to walk (stalk) it for an hour.

how long until people are using drones to herd deer to waiting guns?
you swerved the part in bold where you said the guy should get a new hobby...

Do you think it is fair to tell him that....?
 
you swerved the part in bold where you said the guy should get a new hobby...

Do you think it is fair to tell him that....?
I didn’t swerve anything I’ve made my opinion crystal clear.

Yes.

If he wants to look for deer with a drone rather than stalk to find them then yes 100% deer stalking is not the the right hobby for him.

He should let someone who would appreciate the sport have a a chance at having their own ground.
 
If, after a grand day on the hill, I am fortunate enough to harvest a deer, I savour the day, the stalk and the shot.Then I field dress it, carefully transport it, even more carefully butcher it and with great appreciation for my good fortune reap the harvest for many meals to come. You??
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You mean you don’t just leave it there so you can get on and ‘shoot as many deer as you can’
 
Good evening everybody. When I posted this new thread I knew it would produce some varied and interesting responses (over a thousand views and sixty eight responses in 24 hours) but I have been surprised at how lacking in good-humoured banter some have been. PaulCat summed it beautifully from the first thread...Oh this is going to end well:)
Many have been interesting, very reasonable and really amusing while from others....
For the safety of your drone and your own personal health, never, ever fly a drone over my estate.
I think you need a new hobby.
You could murder deer from the comfort of your armchair.
Not a stalker, never will be.
Not a stalker - a joker.
A beast that has no chance of escape.
Buy your venison pre-packed and save going for a walk.
Only treatment for drones is a shotgun.
etc. etc.
C`mon guys, forums like this should be about frank exchanges and good-humoured banter not vitriol and threats.
So, to update....
I bought a drone last summer for commercial reasons and while learning to fly it I thought it might be interesting to take it out over the land I shoot. Sure enough I was able to see the deer in their natural environment in a way I hadn`t been able to before. I could see them behaving quite naturally in places that my presence would have prevented and I saw them taking routes I was previously unaware of - again because my presence nearby would have alerted them. To be honest it was fascinating - to watch them for extended periods in great detail just being their natural selves. That also gave me some insights into how I might next approach my stalking now knowing a bit more about their habits and movements despite having stalked this land for nearly 15 years (just like your guide does when you take to the hills). I also got some pleasing footage of these amazing animals to show my family. All totally positive.
For the record, I am in group a). I stalk on foot (and occasionally high seat) and thoroughly enjoy the sometimes ball-aching climb up the hills I have access to in Scotland and the easier walks I have on my local land permission. I have never personally used the drone to single out an animal. though I see nothing wrong if that is what someone wants to do. I don`t think your ability and status as a stalker is based on how hard you make it and if you are at the end of a long unproductive day and you need to choose your final stalk between two routes and you could know which one has the greater chance of success by having a look then why not? You will still have to stalk that route and the deer may or may not still be there but you would know you had headed in the right direction at least. As others have said in the posts technology moves on. I don`t own a thermal and so am at a disadvantage to those that can look deep in to the woods and quickly find their quarry but I understand their advantage and find nothing negative in it. Good luck to you. I also use NV for foxing which is now the norm - it was regarded as non ethical when it first appeared.
I started hunting over fifty years ago and will hopefully continue to do so `til I am incapable or dead. I love the hunting skills of stealth, camouflage, bush craft, shooting skill, sheer determination to carry on when knackered, nature at it`s best and worse, watching the sunrise after a long climb, and have the greatest of respect for my quarry whatever it be.
The drone is a useful tool. It has given me greater insight in to what I do and in to the life of deer, it will help me this year in trying to estimate deer numbers on my patch and hopefully I might end up with a piece of great video footage of a stalk to watch one day when I am too old to still do it.
So there you have it guys.
It has been good fun to read all your posts (mainly) and I wish you all happy hunting but keep a sense of humour!
 
I didn’t swerve anything I’ve made my opinion crystal clear.

Yes.

If he wants to look for deer with a drone rather than stalk to find them then yes 100% deer stalking is not the the right hobby for him.

He should let someone who would appreciate the sport have a a chance at having their own ground.
Lol...... Judge Sharps :rofl:
 
Well said @EddieArran505.

Your audience is dominated by older men with very some rigid views on what’s what, and some of the reactions are to be anticipated, it’s normal and part of the interesting cultural makeup of the sport. In my travels around the world, I’ve come to realise that hunting in its many varied forms is always bound by a code of some kind, and often that code includes more philosophical elements that pertain to how we think and what we believe, e.g. our relationship with our prey, rather than the practical aspects of how we go about catching and killing it.

This example you have highlighted - new technology - will step hard on the toes of the stalking codes and traditions. There are several taboos on this forum that cause all sorts of upset, and you’ve just added drones to that list! Take this drone concept to other parts of the world and you will get a different reaction in each region, some far more draconian, others far more open minded.

My bet is that when the current older generation of stalkers have passed on, subsequent generations will be doing things very differently (if at all). That is a reflection of how technology uptake is (largely) a function of age, and how hard it will be to pass some of the age old stalking traditions down to future generations.

I appreciate your views and open mindedness, each to their own and we carry on.
 
When I posted this new thread I knew it would produce some varied and interesting responses (over a thousand views and sixty eight responses in 24 hours) but I have been surprised at how lacking in good-humoured banter some have been.
C`mon guys, forums like this should be about frank exchanges and good-humoured banter not vitriol and threats.
You touched on one of the basic precepts of hunting and, as we are all individuals, we have our own opinion on things. Banter is one thing and there have been frank exchanges. However, I don't believe I have seen any real vitriol or threats - certainly nothing one could get into bother with the FEO for.

And you will note I have selectively edited your post I am replying to, as you did to at least 8 other posts..................

Nothing to stop you droning on in the future if that is your choice - enjoy it! :)
 
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