Crowstalker
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I was thinking if getting something like this for my gun. Never heard of this website though. Can you clearly see the fox at reasonable ranges through a scope with this?
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I was thinking if getting something like this for my gun. Never heard of this website though. Can you clearly see the fox at reasonable ranges through a scope with this?
What do you call "sensible range"
I mean the literature claims up to 750 metre throwing ability when you do the figures on candela/lumens etc. I would say it would throw the beam that far but in my view that is beyond its max range for shooting something. It would light up an animals eyes at 500metres and you could shoot something at 250-300metres without question on high beam mode. If you shine it directly up in to the sky on a dark night, it is like having a never ending light sabre in your hand. It is pretty crazy for something so small and light.
I did get mine from Banggood website ages ago but it does take quite a long time to arrive. I cannot remember exactly how long but it was certainly over a fortnight. You could probably find them on Ebay but you might pay a slight premium by sourcing one direct from UK. They are a lot of torch for the money though.
I might be out foxing tonight if the weather holds. I tend to use night vision most of the time but if I remember, I will take the torch and do a video showing you its throw from 300 odd yards.
Yeah but what would an amateur like you know anyway?
What swaro have you got Paddy and what nv are you using? Just wondering as I have a Z6I so if you have one of those interested in how you overcame the mounting As there is so little space.
Crowstalker
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200 yards max
It sounds a good wee torch perfect for my needs.
That would be good if you get a wee video thank you, if you can't that's OK.
For years I shot hundreds of foxs with the the same Zeiss as yours using a T50 with a red LED mounted on the scope via a short rail and adjustable mount both from Ant supplies. Whole lot will be less than £100. The most important thing to do is buy a thermal, absolute game changer for foxing and all other aspects of shooting.
Above set up will work out to 200 yds. Now I use a Sightline on my .204 and combined with a thermal spotter is a complete game changer.
You could pick a Photon and if you mount it in Burris zee signature rings it is easy to swap Zeiss of rail and attach Photon for night work. Just use a torque wrench on the mounting bolts.
If your doing fox control on poultry units you will need to be covert, foxs will soon wise up and they will cause a lot of damage so you can't afford to mess about.
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Above set up will work out to 200 yds. Now I use a Sightline on my .204 and combined with a thermal spotter is a complete game changer.
You could pick a Photon and if you mount it in Burris zee signature rings it is easy to swap Zeiss of rail and attach Photon for night work. Just use a torque wrench on the mounting bolts.
If your doing fox control on poultry units you will need to be covert, foxs will soon wise up and they will cause a lot of damage so you can't afford to mess about.
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I have a Z6 - as you've found out, sadly the lump from the illuminated reticle on the Z6i makes it nigh-on impossible to mount a rear add-on on one.
As for the NV - both my mate and I use PVS-14 units. There's none of the faffing about that is part and parcel of all the digital systems I've examined thus far. See a fox with the thermal, turn the NV and IR on and bang - all over in a second or so!
Out of interest, how do you find adjustment for depth of field with the PVS14? Is it more a case of how sensitive your scope is to parallax adjustment?
Freeforester
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Couple of sub £60 options:
1) Acebeam E 10
95mm long, 198g with mount, usb rechargeable 2000mAh stubby 26350 battery and lens cover (only battery provided);
showing the catadioptric lens, similar to
2) Acebeam L17:
uses rechargeable 18650 battery, hence longer/bigger. 271gr all up as before.
Both great 300m+ throwers, albeit with spill; for no spill:
3) Acebeam W10 LEP (laser excited phosphor):
No spill, fills the scope, but little outwith. 4x more expensive. Throws for 900+metres.
A thermal spotter will help enormously with locating your fox, and lining up for the shot.
1) Acebeam E 10
95mm long, 198g with mount, usb rechargeable 2000mAh stubby 26350 battery and lens cover (only battery provided);
showing the catadioptric lens, similar to
2) Acebeam L17:
uses rechargeable 18650 battery, hence longer/bigger. 271gr all up as before.
Both great 300m+ throwers, albeit with spill; for no spill:
3) Acebeam W10 LEP (laser excited phosphor):
No spill, fills the scope, but little outwith. 4x more expensive. Throws for 900+metres.
A thermal spotter will help enormously with locating your fox, and lining up for the shot.
IrishStalker
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i use hand held night vision and a torch on the rifle dose me the finest i average about 80 - 90 foxes a year, clever ones are got eventually by going out early in the morning and last night.
Brittany boy
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I’ve got the ace beam L17 on the 22-250 , doctor scope 3-12x56 and easily do 200 yards off sticks , that’s as far as I go and prefer them a good bit closer. The torch is excellent and was a recommendation from another member 
trucraft
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How long do the Acebeam last on a.charge?
Can you change battery in the field easily?
Freeforester
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Assuming you’re not using the light to find your way, but rather only to take the shot once locating the fox, then ”rather a long time”;
batteries are of course simple to change out, though I’d find it personally highly unlikely to be ever faced with this situation.
trucraft
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Where are they available?
Is the remote on/off cable an extra?
J.kerslake
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You mean 15 and a half couple of hounds...
Brittany boy
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L17 came with rat tail switch can do different settings just read the instructions I’ve mine set up switch on dim light after finding with thermal and set up on sticks then when locate eyeshine switch on full beam and shoot.
Freeforester
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Sorry - I must admit to not really understanding what you're asking. The PVS-14 works very well on all the Swaros (one on the .204, one on the .22-250 and another on the .308), as well as on the AGS SWAT on the .25 FAC air rifle and the Swift on the .17 HMR. I've made up a series of adapters so that it can be switched between any of the above in moments. I hope that helps!
Fleming
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AS mentioned above I would second the Sightmark Wraith option. I bought a wraith this time last year for foxing, one of the best bits of kit I have bought. A lot cheaper than other night vision scopes but quality is certainly up there with the more expensive units. I have my unit mounted on a rail to allow me to interchange between the NV and scope, which allows me to use the rifle for both foxing and stalking. It can be a little greedy on the batteries but I just carry a spare set of batteries to be safe.
Cheers - I should have explained better! But as I’ve found out the PVS14 can only be used as a rear add on so won’t be the one for me unfortunately!
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