Quad Sticks - Mjoelner FENRIS II CARBON FIBRE or Viper Flex Carbon fibre?
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There’s also the 4 stable sticks, Stable Stick Ultimate Carbon 4 Stable Stick | eBay
And the blaser sticks to consider
both are carbon fibre and do the job as well.
I liked the look of the fenris ones, certainly the viper flex have a cult following. In the end I settled on the 4 stable sticks and they seem to suffice for my needs.
And the blaser sticks to consider
both are carbon fibre and do the job as well.
I liked the look of the fenris ones, certainly the viper flex have a cult following. In the end I settled on the 4 stable sticks and they seem to suffice for my needs.
I have been using the Fenris Carbon Quads for a while now. I had tried a few in the past including Viperflex but never quite felt at home and despite knowing they gave more support and extended range than my twin sticks, I just preferred mine for ease of use, especially at night when foxing when you often need to pan a long way when a fox moves. On ground with anything longer than prepped grass, this can be a pain.
What changed my mind was shooting more small targets like rabbits on the golf course at 100yds or so with the HMR and basically not being able to headshoot bunnies from twinsticks with the reliability that I needed. Undulations mean a bipod is not always possible with the height of sticks being a massive advantage.
I did a ton of research and looked at the usual pretenders before settling on the Fenris, mostly because they seemed to be the lightest and I liked that you opened them different amounts to allow for height differences rather than my mates Viperflex which are set at a certain height and then only open to that height. I found that prohibitive in terms of getting one of the sticks in to my side/chest which really aids very very accurate shooting. The other bit that sold it to me was being able to fix your rifle in situ allowing a hands free situation. Something that has been brilliant to use.
They are versatile, they are very very light, I like the front and rear mount parts where the rifle sits and I find them very intuitive and quick to use with micro adjustments resulting in great comfort and therefore hugely accurate results. I would genuinely use them to work up a load or zero a rifle. The little click lock bits that fix the sections together are not loose and there is not play in them at all. They are easy to carry with little neoprene type grips half way down and they are quiet to use. Being carbon, they are also not cold on the hands like metal is.
The foot strap thingy that allows for you to let the sticks fall away from you with the rifle in place is a good concept in theory but in practice it is crap. Nobody wants 6 foot of paracord flapping around while carrying them. I have modified mine with my own tiny bit of paracord (about 4 inches) knotted in the originals place with a loop on one end. I then have a separate bit of paracord tied to a small karabiner type clip which I wear round my neck like a fox call. If I want to be hands free, I just clip it on to the sticks and they then cannot fall away from my body. I don't have to worry about keeping my foot in place etc. Much more versatile, more safe and no pieces of flapping cord.
Cons - Hard to find fault with the design but I have not used them for long enough to reliably say the build quality will stand up. The carbon legs are certainly fine, but as with most sticks, the little fold out bits and leg stops are plastic and part of me doesn't like plastic. Time will tell if they last the distance.
The silicone fastenings to lock the rifle in place - Same thing really. They work brilliantly (I only use the rear one) but again time will tell if they last the distance. Would be easy DIY fix if the worst happened though and I can see in time this being a point of failure. I don't have enough experience with silicon rubber to know for sure.
Overall, I am very impressed. Best bit of shooting kit I have bought in a while. In the last week I have used them to headshoot a squirrel with the HMR at 100yds, taken few rabbits from 20-130yds, shot a Munty buck at 140yds and also 3 foxes with one of them being at night at 200yds.
I hate to admit it but my twin sticks have not been used since I have had them.
If you want any close up pics of parts that are not shown well online or an example of my paracord hack, just shout.
What changed my mind was shooting more small targets like rabbits on the golf course at 100yds or so with the HMR and basically not being able to headshoot bunnies from twinsticks with the reliability that I needed. Undulations mean a bipod is not always possible with the height of sticks being a massive advantage.
I did a ton of research and looked at the usual pretenders before settling on the Fenris, mostly because they seemed to be the lightest and I liked that you opened them different amounts to allow for height differences rather than my mates Viperflex which are set at a certain height and then only open to that height. I found that prohibitive in terms of getting one of the sticks in to my side/chest which really aids very very accurate shooting. The other bit that sold it to me was being able to fix your rifle in situ allowing a hands free situation. Something that has been brilliant to use.
They are versatile, they are very very light, I like the front and rear mount parts where the rifle sits and I find them very intuitive and quick to use with micro adjustments resulting in great comfort and therefore hugely accurate results. I would genuinely use them to work up a load or zero a rifle. The little click lock bits that fix the sections together are not loose and there is not play in them at all. They are easy to carry with little neoprene type grips half way down and they are quiet to use. Being carbon, they are also not cold on the hands like metal is.
The foot strap thingy that allows for you to let the sticks fall away from you with the rifle in place is a good concept in theory but in practice it is crap. Nobody wants 6 foot of paracord flapping around while carrying them. I have modified mine with my own tiny bit of paracord (about 4 inches) knotted in the originals place with a loop on one end. I then have a separate bit of paracord tied to a small karabiner type clip which I wear round my neck like a fox call. If I want to be hands free, I just clip it on to the sticks and they then cannot fall away from my body. I don't have to worry about keeping my foot in place etc. Much more versatile, more safe and no pieces of flapping cord.
Cons - Hard to find fault with the design but I have not used them for long enough to reliably say the build quality will stand up. The carbon legs are certainly fine, but as with most sticks, the little fold out bits and leg stops are plastic and part of me doesn't like plastic. Time will tell if they last the distance.
The silicone fastenings to lock the rifle in place - Same thing really. They work brilliantly (I only use the rear one) but again time will tell if they last the distance. Would be easy DIY fix if the worst happened though and I can see in time this being a point of failure. I don't have enough experience with silicon rubber to know for sure.
Overall, I am very impressed. Best bit of shooting kit I have bought in a while. In the last week I have used them to headshoot a squirrel with the HMR at 100yds, taken few rabbits from 20-130yds, shot a Munty buck at 140yds and also 3 foxes with one of them being at night at 200yds.
I hate to admit it but my twin sticks have not been used since I have had them.
If you want any close up pics of parts that are not shown well online or an example of my paracord hack, just shout.
Sold! I was heading towards the Fenris before I asked for advice, I would very much appreciate the pics of the paracord modification here or on my email dtwilson1981@gmail.com
Also, anything you feel relevant these will be my first quad sticks as been using tripod until I went deer stalking and used some quads recently I didn't realise how much more stable albeit a bit of common sense was expecting some difference.
Thank you for your effort in such a detailed response too.
Here you go. Hopefully self explanatory. Where the supplied paracord boot strap thingy is secured, there is a little hold. Just put your own material in there and secure it and tie a loop in the end that faces you as the sticks are in action.
Then I just have a paracord necklace if you like, with a small keychain thingy that I just clip on if I want to be totally hands free for any length of time. In practice, you can just strap the butt of the rifle in and let it rest against your shoulder or even just hold on to the little loop you made and scan with the other hand.
Also took a close up of the legs and the aforementioned plastic fittings which allow the sticks to open back to front. The travel is limited by these and are the only obvious weak point I can see although I should probably have more faith in modern plastics. In terms of the legs opening fully the other way (left and right as you stand behind them) there is basically no limit on how far they open and this is governed by the screws at the top of the sticks that you can see in the first couple of photos.
SussexSteve
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Viperflex
jim_allen_uk
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I’ve had viper flex and never rated them for the money. Like the look of the Fenis.
VanGogh76
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I have the Fenris Carbon fibre and really like them, I sold my Viper Flex as I got frustrated with the pan pipes.
For those that mentioned the boot strap issue, all I have done is get one of the kids hair bands onto the leg and use that to hold it into place so it's easy to get and doesn't flap about
For those that mentioned the boot strap issue, all I have done is get one of the kids hair bands onto the leg and use that to hold it into place so it's easy to get and doesn't flap about
I am left handed and have not changed it round as I prefer it the way it is. If you look at the first picture I posted in post #5, you can see the rear section where the rear of the rifle stock sits. The higher lip is on the right hand side which is how it came out of the box. I have no idea if this is designed this way for a right hander but in my eyes as a left hander, I don't want the higher side on the left hand side.
In any case, you can undo the screws and turn it 180 degrees so it sits the other way if you so wish.
pj1
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bringing up an old thread but any of you with the Fernis sticks. im interested if they are suitable for shorter folk. im only 5 foot 5. i notice the legs open wider for lower shooting positions but if in woodland or undergrowth it could be a real pain having to open them really wide just for me to use them standing
Many thanks Pete
Many thanks Pete
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