Pfeifer Waffen - Bullpup stalking rifle

[A J]

Thought this was a really interesting little single shot rifle. 6.5 Creedmoor with a 26" barrel, but only a 27.5" overall length.

Not a rifle I would initially consider, but it would make a great little light weight backpack stalking rifle if you're covering large areas of ground on foot.



I know there are a couple of people on here with them and I hear they're pretty accurate. How do you find them?

 

[Heym SR20]

I think it looks better with the carbon Fibre rather than plain plasticky looking wood. I do think the scope and all the extra rails and bipods rather defeats the object of exercise which is to have a small light and compact little hunting rifle. The perfect scope would be the z3 3-9x36 mounted nice and low.

I did look at one when I went to Jagd & Hund 2019. Well made and engineered. I am not sure about the handling, feels very different and the muzzle is very close. But I can see how it could grow on you.

Personally I would prefer a break down kipplauf for the same duty.

 

[Selous]

Interesting rifles but I can’t see why they put such a high one piece scope mount on. He seemed to have issues with cheek weld and ordinary low picatinny rings would have been much lower.

 

[User00040]

Bullpups are a terrible concept, ergonomically flawed.

 

[Mr. Gain]

I think it looks better with the carbon Fibre rather than plain plasticky looking wood. I do think the scope and all the extra rails and bipods rather defeats the object of exercise which is to have a small light and compact little hunting rifle. The perfect scope would be the z3 3-9x36 mounted nice and low.

I agree the FBT stock looks good, and so it should: it probably cost more than the rifle. All the same, why leave that brown butt-pad in place? (FWIW, I thought the wood stock wasn't at all bad.)
Total agreement about the mounts and rails, though, but then that's what Tier 1 make and sell. Pity they couldn't make a dedicated Pfeiffer intermount, but I'm sure they know they're unlikely to sell more than a handful. For that matter, I'm very surprised FBT has gone to the trouble: maybe someone has bought Pfeiffer and wants to make it less niche by getting some prestige partners on board?
The scope is OK, I think, or would be with a more discreet mounting system giving a lower head position.
I like the ASMR approach to the video, and the absence of a generic hard-rock soundtrack is an immediate plus. I'd still rather have a bit of Mark Novak's Bach, though.
When all's said and done, however, the video has left me more inclined to buy a Tipton gun vise and some colour coded Allen keys!
The scope leveller looks good (and requires 1 fewer steps than the Wheeler), but I wouldn't ditch the Wheeler to buy one.
On the whole I like the Pfeiffer. A company called Steinkamp used to do a similar build as an O/U double rifle or combination gun called the pilotengewehr, which I'd have loved to try if it hadn't been unaffordable/unobtainable at the time.

 

[Steff]

The thing I like the least about the Pfeiffer is the rail on the barrel(!!!, not the receiver or chamber) on which comes another (pica) rail on which come the rings.
This contradicts just about anything I have ever heard about building a permanently accurate rifle.

 

[ASHCROFT9491]

I was in the range with this rifle recently, very well-balanced and the trigger was very much to my liking and very surprised for a bullpup

It was a tac driver

 

[Tazz]

Thought this was a really interesting little single shot rifle. 6.5 Creedmoor with a 26" barrel, but only a 27.5" overall length.

Not a rifle I would initially consider, but it would make a great little light weight backpack stalking rifle if you're covering large areas of ground on foot.



I know there are a couple of people on here with them and I hear they're pretty accurate. How do you find them?

Do they do a higher scope mount!!

 

[Mr. Gain]

The trigger was very much to my liking and very surprised for a bullpup

Good to hear from someone who has used it. Do you know what has prompted T1, FBT et all to select the Pfeiffer for this project? Will there be a wider marketing effort on this rifle through a new distributor? (So far it has fit nicely into Global Rifle's portfolio of oddball European designs: DSR, Fortmeier, Voere, Stradivari, Niedermeier, etc.)

Regarding the trigger, as you can see in the video, Pfeiffer avoid the degradation of trigger feel typical of bullpups by integrating the connecting rod into a set-trigger mechanism. This gives a clean break close to the trigger and a crisp strike to the secondary sear at the rear.

 

[A J]

Do they do a higher scope mount!!

It's not the mount that's high, but the PW mounting block on the barrel. That being said, it probably would be more suited to low Picatinny rings.

 

[The Singing Stalker]

I like the scope levelling tool, not seen one of those before.
I can’t afford the rifle so ignored that, but it would make a great foxing rifle, sod to shoot off sticks though.

 

[JH83]

I’m sure @Oldstalker has a view on bullpups and their utility, I am aware he has used one for a while now-a French design made for high altitude Chamois stalking if memory serves.

 

[Dawnrazor]

How doea that trigger work?

 

[Mr. Gain]

How does that trigger work?

Pfeifer Waffen - Bullpup stalking rifle

Thought this was a really interesting little single shot rifle. 6.5 Creedmoor with a 26" barrel, but only a 27.5" overall length. Not a rifle I would initially consider, but it would make a great little light weight backpack stalking rifle if you're covering large areas of ground on foot. I...

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The backwards "trigger" puts a spring load on the transfer bar and sets the front sear. On firing, the button trigger trips that sear. This allows the transfer bar to spring rearwards, where it trips a sear in the butt plate, releasing the striker, which has already been cocked by the operation of loading the rifle. (Correct me someone if I've got this wrong!)

 

[Ttocs]

Bull pup air rifle yes, centrefire no!
It’s making me cringe now, the thought of load development at the range with my face pressed up nice and firmly on the chamber. No thanks.

 

[Hornet 6]

I liked mine well enough, would still have it had it been in .243 or similar.

Neil.

 

[Chiyuan]

I liked mine well enough, would still have it had it been in .243 or similar.

Neil.

Interesting picture. Do you push the trigger to fire?

 

[Oldstalker]

@JH83 is correct in that I do use a bullpup and have done so now for most of 20 years. I became a fan because I watched John Brown and Bob Holmes, both past Yorkshire Brach BDS chairmen using them effectively, the latter being the only man to get all his shots on target in a match against the N Yorks Police firearms team using a bolt action rifle when the shoot was against the clock. [The Police had semi-autos.] If I compare using the liveliness and pointability of my Crapahute compared to a conventional rifle, to using my Holland shotguns against my AYA then there is a lightness of feel and liveliness in the bullpup. With a reflex moderator it is perfectly balanced on my right hand in the pistol grip. It weighs very little; the sling weighs more than the stock so the overall weight is little more than the metalwork. Additionally the perceived recoil is low and it was only when I started using this rifle and moderator that I felt able to watch the bullet all the way to the target. I have always liked long barrelled rifles, and the additional muzzle velocity imparted for a given load, and a bullpup is precisely the way to achieve this.
The rear trigger (yes, it has two) is connected by a simple rod to the trigger in the pistol grip. I confess I was sceptical initially as to how well this would work but it is sufficiently crisp as to be more than merely satisfactory. I have used mine which is 6.5x57 (Cumbria Constab' would not allow me to have 3 no rifles in 6.5x55) for deer park culling of fallow, stalking red (very large ones), fallow and roe as well as driven boar and deer. It shoots better than I do and after more than 12000 rounds is on its second barrel. I have another barrel in stock for my son's use when I eventually give up using it.
The scopes on bullpups do tend to be set higher in order to allow clearance for the bolt but as I only have 6x max magnification on the scope parallax is not an issue. Also I am nearly 6' 3" and with long arms so it is comfortable. I do use an illuminated reticle and often for driven boar turn the magnification down a little. This will sound immodest but I have never had a problem with target acquisition through a telescope but I suspect that has more to do with a misspent youth!

 

[Hornet 6]

Interesting picture. Do you push the trigger to fire?

No. push to cock.

Neil.

 

[Mr. Gain]

Interesting picture. Do you push the trigger to fire?

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