New importation restrictions to the UK?

reading through that piece is total crap and not been thought through by anyone knowing anything about dogs
Its being brought in by the kunt owner of Dilyn the Jack Russell at the behest of his kunt co-owner and wife who clearly witholds noshing privileges if he doesnt do as hes told when it comes to ‘animal welfare’ and the ‘environment’. Of course they know nothing about dogs and definitely dont want dogs being used for our sporting purposes.
 
@Conor O'Gorman
What's BASC's view an stance on this please
Cheers Jimmy

We are considering our position on the proposal to increase the minimum age at which dogs can be brought into GB from 15 weeks to 6 months. If we are opposed we will need to explain what the specific reasons are for this. Comments welcome either here or by email to conor.ogorman@basc.org.uk

We could be supportive of the proposed prohibition of the movement of dogs with cropped ears and docked tails so long as the tail docking exemption for working dogs will apply (which is promised, as outlined in the consultation document)

The restrictions would be legislated for through the Animal Welfare (Kept Animals) Bill. See blog below for an overview on that.

Animal Welfare Bill - The British Association for Shooting and Conservation
 
We are considering our position on the proposal to increase the minimum age at which dogs can be brought into GB from 15 weeks to 6 months. If we are opposed we will need to explain what the specific reasons are for this. Comments welcome either here or by email to conor.ogorman@basc.org.uk

We could be supportive of the proposed prohibition of the movement of dogs with cropped ears and docked tails so long as the tail docking exemption for working dogs will apply (which is promised, as outlined in the consultation document)

The restrictions would be legislated for through the Animal Welfare (Kept Animals) Bill. See blog below for an overview on that.

Animal Welfare Bill - The British Association for Shooting and Conservation
Email sent Conor, regards Wayne
 
We are considering our position on the proposal to increase the minimum age at which dogs can be brought into GB from 15 weeks to 6 months. If we are opposed we will need to explain what the specific reasons are for this. Comments welcome either here or by email to conor.ogorman@basc.org.uk

We could be supportive of the proposed prohibition of the movement of dogs with cropped ears and docked tails so long as the tail docking exemption for working dogs will apply (which is promised, as outlined in the consultation document)

The restrictions would be legislated for through the Animal Welfare (Kept Animals) Bill. See blog below for an overview on that.

Animal Welfare Bill - The British Association for Shooting and Conservation
Thanks for the reply Conor.
Your stance seems similar to mine by what you've stated above and I think you'll also find some pretty valid points throughout this tread from Wayne and myself along with some others too.
Cheers Jimmy
 
Bringing new blood lines in to enlarge the gene pool of certain breeds which have become too closely bred would be one reason.
It's a reason I agree, not a good reason or even an important one.
Our country is over full, is there some part of that you don't understand.

Neil.
 
It's a reason I agree, not a good reason or even an important one.
Our country is over full, is there some part of that you don't understand.

Neil.
it's important for UKSHA to get the right pups from abroad the dogs here are not worth having and are full of problems in blood lines and a plethora of other issues, not to mention the costs, regards wayne
 
Neil, are we talking about dogs here or some other agenda?
The import of animals, nothing else on my agenda.
We are full to over flowing, importing animals as pets is something that ****es me off, they are pets, nobody needs to import a pet, plenty in shelters as it is.

Neil.
 
The import of animals, nothing else on my agenda.
We are full to over flowing, importing animals as pets is something that ****es me off, they are pets, nobody needs to import a pet, plenty in shelters as it is.

Neil.
I agree with you but as the owner of a GWP would caveat this as has been said elsewhere that dogs with a restricted gene pool should have an exemption
 
The import of animals, nothing else on my agenda.
We are full to over flowing, importing animals as pets is something that ****es me off, they are pets, nobody needs to import a pet, plenty in shelters as it is.

Neil.
Oh OK, well in that case I can't agree with you unfortunately.
 
The import of animals, nothing else on my agenda.
We are full to over flowing, importing animals as pets is something that ****es me off, they are pets, nobody needs to import a pet, plenty in shelters as it is.

Neil.

What a load of bollocks!

If I want a trop bred animals to train my way to a decent standard then I will most likely want a pup, either from the U.K. or even abroad if it’s something special.

I don’t want someone else’s dog home reject that’s for numerous faults already ingrained!

What a naive view!
 
I agree with you but as the owner of a GWP would caveat this as has been said elsewhere that dogs with a restricted gene pool should have an exemption
No need to import the whole dog, a few straws of semen will get you all the genetic variation you‘ll ever need and its a lot cheaper than buying the whole hound.
For me the biggest issue would be the 6 month age limit and the docked dogs prohibition, ear cropping I can live without. Hanging on to a pup for 12 extra weeks is going to be expensive, its also going to need some basic manners and a lot of socialisation
 
What a load of bollocks!

If I want a trop bred animals to train my way to a decent standard then I will most likely want a pup, either from the U.K. or even abroad if it’s something special.

I don’t want someone else’s dog home reject that’s for numerous faults already ingrained!

What a naive view!

As opposed to your selfish view ?
 
No need to import the whole dog, a few straws of semen will get you all the genetic variation you‘ll ever need and its a lot cheaper than buying the whole hound.
For me the biggest issue would be the 6 month age limit and the docked dogs prohibition, ear cropping I can live without. Hanging on to a pup for 12 extra weeks is going to be expensive, its also going to need some basic manners and a lot of socialisation
AI is fine in some circumstances but I don’t have a lot of faith in the scruples of a lot of breeders these days and some may prefer to own a physical specimen. Totally agree with you about ear cropping, no need at all in 99%+ of cases. Yes, there will be issues as you have said over a pup making it to juvenile stage without training, care that it’s unlikely to receive in sufficient quantities ….
 
Smugglers still gonna smuggle, they'll just have to smuggle that bit harder now.
As with most UK legislation- its more a case of those dim wits at the helm looking like they are achieving things as action groups and petitions put pressure on them, signing bits of paper and saying things are so doesnt ever resolve the problem, it simply makes it look like they are on top of a problem when in fact the problem still exists.
 
As opposed to your selfish view ?

Ye right ... the concept of having a well bred specific breed that's well trained is selfish?

We should all go down Dogs Trust and get our competition dogs?

Have you asked the Police why they have breeding programmes, or buy in from certain people?
Or why the military do the same?
Or why anyone develops breeding programmes to better a breed.

Tell them they are all selfish and should go and take on a problem dog that someone else has already ruined instead is it? :-|
 
Fuelled by the pandemic, the increase of dog thefts and puppy farms has spiralled. One issue that is part of these problems is the transportation of dogs across borders (the Irish border seems most common) in poor condition and poor circumstances.

To combat dog thefts and puppy farms better than at present (and I know there's at least been some success) means throwing time and personnel at it. Which costs money. So instead, they are passing another law to make cruelty to animals crossing borders illegal (with a few bells and whistles on). Something that is, of course illegal anyway.

The illusion of progress. Same old, same old.
 
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