Wretched Microsoft!

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FrenchieBoy

FrenchieBoy

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I have a laptop (A cheapish Toshiba Satalite Pro T130) which I use for Zoom meetings and editing videos that I shoot with my drone. It wasn't the fastest at video editing but it did the job running Windows 7. Anyhow I was editing a video the evening before last and left it to process the video when finished. I thought it was taking a longer time than normal so had a look. The damned thing had decided to Update to Windows 10 without letting me know it was doing it. The long and the short of it is that it didn't update properly and has left me with a laptop that will boot up but do nothing else so I am going to have to get it reformatted and another full version of windows installed and maybe lose all the data and files that I had stored on the laptop.
Why the hell can't Microsoft leave people's PCs and laptops alone rather than hacking in and doing things things that they do not want doing and never asked for!
Rant over. :banghead:
 
finnbear270 said:
I always wondered about MAC system, could you explain a little for me?, Considering moving myself.
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All I can say is I do all the basic stuff as I did on my Microsoft laptop, but it can do a lot more and is a lot more clever than I am.
Takes a bit of time to get used to it ( in my case!) but its great, and the start up is so fast.
I have never had a virus either.
But they aren't cheap.
 
devon deer stalker said:
All I can say is I do all the basic stuff as I did on my Microsoft laptop, but it can do a lot more and is a lot more clever than I am.
Takes a bit of time to get used to it ( in my case!) but its great, and the start up is so fast.
I have never had a virus either.
But they aren't cheap.
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What would you recommend to replace the common or garden desktop, & can you link to a scanner / printer?
 
You could try installing linux. It is free and works very well. You can actually download it (there are a number of versions out there and a few cheap magazines in your local supermarket or branch of W H Smith that will get you started) onto a reasonably sized memory stick and boot and run your computer off that and see how you go. It is much less resource hungry than Windows so your present computer will feel instantly faster.

David.
 
FrenchieBoy said:
I have a laptop (A cheapish Toshiba Satalite Pro T130) which I use for Zoom meetings and editing videos that I shoot with my drone. It wasn't the fastest at video editing but it did the job running Windows 7. Anyhow I was editing a video the evening before last and left it to process the video when finished. I thought it was taking a longer time than normal so had a look. The damned thing had decided to Update to Windows 10 without letting me know it was doing it. The long and the short of it is that it didn't update properly and has left me with a laptop that will boot up but do nothing else so I am going to have to get it reformatted and another full version of windows installed and maybe lose all the data and files that I had stored on the laptop.
Why the hell can't Microsoft leave people's PCs and laptops alone rather than hacking in and doing things things that they do not want doing and never asked for!
Rant over. :banghead:
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The simple solution is not to buy anything Microsoft. It is ****.
 
BryanDC said:
I'm going to be smart here but there are three words that are vital with any windows computer, backup, backup, backup. Having lost hundreds of photos, I learned the hard way
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Could I add three more vital words to BDCs advise………..Update, Update, Update.

Microsoft update on Tuesdays, MAKE SURE your laptop is plugged in and switched on all day into Wednesday. It is absolutely essential you update regularly, you will save yourself a lot of grief. 👍

PS: I found that out the hard way!
 
First thing you should do is turn off the updates in Windows if you don't want it to be updated, depending on the age of the laptop, it may be possible to run windows from a USB stick, or Linux for that matter.
You should be able to get back to WIN 7 no problem, got to System Restore and select a date (restore point) to go back to, it probably did a backup before loading Windows 10.
Macs are very good and tend to manage your computer better than Windows, but like windows there is built in obsolescence , and no support for some of the previous versions, also the date of manufacture is important too, anything before late 2012 is now obsolete, BUT, if you are happy with a pre 2012 Mac as it is, then no problem, you can connect anything to a Mac either directly or wireless, very different to a windows machine in two ways, very hard to update the hardware, and if anything does go wrong, very expensive to fix.
Plenty of cheap second hand Macs, and well worth buying, and remember you can run Windows on a mac if you want to, but it is doubtful you would want to.


Ref Windows 11,(comes out next week) and like BIG SUR on the Mac, a lot of computers will not run these OS, as the hit is you go out and buy a new one, again built in obsolescence, but if you are happy with what you got, stick with it, Old PC's and laptops i would suggest running Windows2000, if the PC is suitable, probably the best version of windows ever. I have a laptop, very old, running Windows 3.1 it is so fast, unfortunately only have a few progs on it, but it boots in 3 sec, those were the days, before they started to put all kinds of crap into the OS.

The only time I have had any trouble with Windows is when it has updated itself. I don't allow it to update anymore until I actually see what it is updating.
 
Hi
Now that Windows 7 is not supported, are there security issues for the computer even when quality security such as McAffee or Norton is installed?

Apologies to Frenchie for having a little piggy back on his post.
 
Have to use a windows PC for work what a bag of shite. Never once had a problem with a Mac and it’s OS.
 
On one of the main computers I work with, it runs 2 hard drives - one with 98 and the other with xp
I would consider going over to Mac otherwise
 
FrenchieBoy said:
I have a laptop (A cheapish Toshiba Satalite Pro T130) which I use for Zoom meetings and editing videos that I shoot with my drone. It wasn't the fastest at video editing but it did the job running Windows 7. Anyhow I was editing a video the evening before last and left it to process the video when finished. I thought it was taking a longer time than normal so had a look. The damned thing had decided to Update to Windows 10 without letting me know it was doing it. The long and the short of it is that it didn't update properly and has left me with a laptop that will boot up but do nothing else so I am going to have to get it reformatted and another full version of windows installed and maybe lose all the data and files that I had stored on the laptop.
Why the hell can't Microsoft leave people's PCs and laptops alone rather than hacking in and doing things things that they do not want doing and never asked for!
Rant over. :banghead:
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Because sadly, if they did what you suggest they wouldn’t have become a massive multi billion pound turnover business
 
FrenchieBoy said:
I am going to have to get it reformatted and another full version of windows installed and maybe lose all the data and files that I had stored on the laptop
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Even if the OS is toast, the data should be fully accessible and recoverable. Do not rush to format.

Data recovery pretty easy stuff even if computers are not your thing: take the hard drive out and plug it into a second [working] PC which will then treat the non-booting hard drive as a storage device.

There are a myriad harnesses to turn an internal drive into an external, pluggable, option. The example below has a good review. There are others...

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Just to reiterate what has been said.

MOVE TO APPLE!! You can set up a weekly backup automatically which deletes the previous one so no massive use of hard drive. Plus it’s pretty virus immune, all of the systems are intuitive and Apple will accept windows format and let you save in windows format (windows will not recognise Apple format)

In essence the origin idea of windows was an Apple/Mac concept taken by an employee who set up his own company and developed the idea - Microsoft!!

The Mac hardware is expensive but software is cheap. I have used my iMac for ten years and only just now had to upgrade it. That cannot be said the same for Microsoft who produce software which demands bigger spec machines.

In the end it balances out over the years but for complex manipulation Mac has so much more capabilities and is worth the initial outlay IMHO.

BE
 
Yorkie said:
Hi
Now that Windows 7 is not supported, are there security issues for the computer even when quality security such as McAffee or Norton is installed?

Apologies to Frenchie for having a little piggy back on his post.
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I don't think windows 7 is more susceptible to viruses than any other OS, it's just that once an OS is put out to grass and no longer supported, the new software has trouble running on it, and in that there is less chance of getting new viruses on it, as they re written for the latest OS, and the hackers don't think there are many using the older OS's and they tend then to become more safe........LONG LIVE WINDOWS 3.1..........and Wolfenstein, Doom etc.
 
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