Greta…

[J@son]

Just for a small moment consider each volcanic eruption spew far more green house gas than man kind ever has.

Sorry - but this is simply not true. And circulating this sort of misinformation creates a real risk of underestimating the very real threat caused by climate change and the steps that will need to be taken to combat it.

The eruption in 1980 of Mt St Helen's is estimated to have released around 10 million tonnes of CO2 into the Earth's atmosphere over the course of aprox. 10 hours. Currently the same amount of CO2 (10 million tonnes) is generated by human activity in under 3 hours. Overall volcanic eruptions account for a fraction of the CO2 released into the Earth's atmosphere when compared to human activity. This is not a state secret. It well documented and not in dispute. To suggest otherwise is just daft.

I think the aggressive language being directed at Greta Thunberg (here and elsewhere) only makes the people using it look shrill, weird and angry. Agree with her or disagree with her about climate change. But don't call her (or her parents!) c*nts. What does that achieve other than making the people who do so look like aggressive playground bullies? While I am sure she is used to it and, I hope, couldn't care less about the people who attack her in these terms, surely, those who disagree with her should attack the ideas she is putting forward rather than the young woman expressing them.

Play the ball not the man. Especially if the man is actually a young woman. Otherwise you just look like a thug trying to shout down ideas with which you disagree .

And if you are going to engage with the argument, you will have to do a lot better than putting it all down to volcanoes.

 

[Rasputin]

Sorry - but this is simply not true. And circulating this sort of misinformation creates a real risk of underestimating the very real threat caused by climate change and the steps that will need to be taken to combat it.

The eruption in 1980 of Mt St Helen's is estimated to have released around 10 million tonnes of CO2 into the Earth's atmosphere over the course of aprox. 10 hours. Currently the same amount of CO2 (10 million tonnes) is generated by human activity in under 3 hours. Overall volcanic eruptions account for a fraction of the CO2 released into the Earth's atmosphere when compared to human activity. This is not a state secret. It well documented and not in dispute. To suggest otherwise is just daft.

I think the aggressive language being directed at Greta Thunberg (here and elsewhere) only makes the people using it look shrill, weird and angry. Agree with her or disagree with her about climate change. But don't call her (or her parents!) c*nts. What does that achieve other than making the people who do so look like aggressive playground bullies? While I am sure she is used to it and, I hope, couldn't care less about the people who attack her in these terms, surely, those who disagree with her should attack the ideas she is putting forward rather than the young woman expressing them.

Play the ball not the man. Especially if the man is actually a young woman. Otherwise you just look like a thug trying to shout down ideas with which you disagree .

And if you are going to engage with the argument, you will have to do a lot better than putting it all down to volcanoes.

I’m sorry but she’s an absolute mong on every level and deserves what she gets. Watching her chant stick your climate pledges up your arse with a group of similarly privileged and sheltered individuals tells you all you need to know about her and her ilk.

If they want to use defamatory language including using her global platform to encourage people to commit activity which is detrimental to the economy then it’s only right we are also allowed to.

That being said I do wholehearted agree with you about the message being lost and it’s because people are frankly fed up of being spoon fed crap and told it’s fillet steak.

 

[Tazz]

Walking example of poor parenting

 

[gixer1]

I honestly think she just likes the attentions and her parents think it’s fun….the below shows she should not be on this platform and thinks it’s a funny little game, again - her parents should be held responsible.

Swearing Greta Thunberg cheered by protesters in Glasgow park

Swearing Greta Thunberg cheered by protesters in Glasgow park

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[Stalker62]

Fixed both problems . . . . Apogee and Perigee are English, but I'm not sure what those words are.

I know, and that was why he only got second place.

My poor attempt at humour, I am afraid.

 

[bobthedug]

I honestly think she just likes the attentions and her parents think it’s fun….the below shows she should not be on this platform and thinks it’s a funny little game, again - her parents should be held responsible.

Swearing Greta Thunberg cheered by protesters in Glasgow park

Swearing Greta Thunberg cheered by protesters in Glasgow park

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To quote wee Greta, "no more blah, blah, blah"
I'm in total agreement for once!

 

[Sinistral]

I know, and that was why he only got second place.

My poor attempt at humour, I am afraid.

Now I understand.
Too cryptic for me.

 

[JTO]

Jaques Attali.....

“In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old, because as soon as it exceeds 60-65 years man lives longer than he produces and costs society dearly, then the weak and then the useless who do nothing for society because there will be more and more of them, and especially the stupid ones. Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive. Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to come to an abrupt halt rather than gradually deteriorating. We won’t be able to run intelligence tests on millions and millions of people, you can imagine! We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the fat, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will thus be done on its own: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own.”

Excerpt From: Jacques Attali. “A Brief History of the Future: A Brave and Controversial Look at the Twenty-First Century.” 1980

Jacques Attali is a French economic and social theorist, writer, political adviser and senior civil servant, who served as a counselor to President François Mitterrand from 1981 to 1991.

But Social Democracy gets in the way, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

 

[User00036]

& don't the Saudi's now have a controlling share in the Independant?

 

[Stalker62]

I think this episode will do her (laudable) cause no favours.

 

[Freeforester]

I wonder how she feels about the destruction of Scottish deep peatland (acre for acre a better carbon sink, and globally much scarcer that the rainforest) and the extirpation from its known haunts of our islands largest predator species, the extremely rare and now threatened Wildcat, both of which are due to be lost to a wind farm extension which is developed, financially controlled by and benefits her native Swedish Government?

I learned today that the ‘public enquiry’ to be held in regard to this is being rigged so that, er, members of the public can’t submit their concerns or address their views at same - one wonders who decides how these ’affairs’ are run/operate, and quite for whose benefit. FLS Scotland, the Land bit does not apparently include valuable deep peatland, and they’d prefer it that the Forest bit did not have Wildcat, which after all were extant there well before they and their non-native trees arrived. Naturescot? Aiding the extinction by trapping the purest ones they can catch and removing them to their distant, shiny-new, super-dooper multi million taxpayer funded breeding programme centre, and with any progeny forthcoming never to be returned to these parts, but to be ’released’ at a place and time of their choosing, within the Cairngorms National Park, where they are lacking. Such is their ‘rewilding’, more like jobs for the boys, at the expense of the Cats’ own chosen domain.

What say you, Greta? Sir David? Worst First Minister?

 

[john_little]

Fixed both problems . . . . Apogee and Perigee are English, but I'm not sure what those words are.
Nice to see misogyny is still alive and well.

Part of a spell from Bedknobs and broomsticks

 

[Reloader708]

Over population, there's swarms of us now, all consumers and that's the simple truth.
What's so frustrating is its never mentioned.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Would TSD be getting its camo pants in a twist if a no less passionate family unit resulted in a similarly vocal young girl securing the ear of the media in their belief that hunting is good?

K

 

[Ade8mm]

There is a reason it is called renewable energy. It is because the technology wears out and has to be renewed.
This, of course never gets a mention as sensible debate is closed down before it even starts.

 

[User00035]

I find it a bit odd that some little girl from Sweden can garner such hostility, when the real problem is just behind her, in those blacked out motorcades of the worlds elite, who represent the corporations that create the mess we find ourselves in.

I think that's precisely why she gets so much hostility. She's a puppet, a living, breathing stunt and everyone can see what's behind her.

 

[Ade8mm]

I find it a bit odd that some little girl from Sweden can garner such hostility, when the real problem is just behind her, in those blacked out motorcades of the worlds elite, who represent the corporations that create the mess we find ourselves in.

"Little girl"?

She is an adult.

 

[Rasputin]

"Little girl"?

She is an adult.

Would TSD be getting its camo pants in a twist if a no less passionate family unit resulted in a similarly vocal young girl securing the ear of the media in their belief that hunting is good?

K

No because that’s impossible.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Well I’m not the brightest match in the box so forgive my mistake in assuming that when the not so young girl chants “blah, blah, blah” outside the COP26 conference centre she has a handle on both the problem and glaring hypocrisy.

K

 

[foxdropper]

Love her hate her ,I don’t see anyone else sticking up for what actually needs to happen rather than talking about it ,pledging nothing and doing less .
Same as the insulate mob ,they are a pain in the arse but I can see the why and passion involved .We are so intent on living our lives to the full and feck everybody else that climate change is someone else’s problem .
On one of the morning programs ,Richard Maidley tried to make a guest look small by continually asking menial questions in the scheme of things and not trying to address the bigger picture .
To me be looked the arsehole .
Yes these people are a right pain and inconvenience but what else is there left bar extreme protest .
Government is stringing us along big time ,all the while scheming to make money on the pretence of helping the planet .
Of course everyone’s upset about the repercussions in traffic ,the strokes the missed surgery etc but in the scheme of things it pales into nothing if change in the right direction is brought about .
This young lady has far more balls than any on here I’d say .How many of you whingers actually give two fecks about the planet and adjust your lifestyle to live greener ,none I’d say .
The bigger picture is far greater than we ,in this moment can possibly understand but the few who are prepared to speak out see it .All we see as selfish individuals is the inconvenience on the day ,the hype that no one wants to discuss and the face of the individual trying their best to get the issue world wide .
It shouldn’t be up to a young girl to say these things it should be world leaders but the cretins just want us to shut the feck up whilst they coin in personal gain .
Roll on a revolution ,a reset in time where these real c.u.n.t.s in power can be held accountable and dealt with .