TIPPS ear defenders - British Army Issue

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Suilven

Suilven

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Anyone use these?


Interesting concept, with a plastic switch you snap into one of two positions for use for continuous noise protection or for impulse noise protection.

They seem a bit too good to be true...inexpensive and they must have been tested properly if they are army issue..

Interested in any experience in the field (stalking or MOD use).

Suilven
 
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Suilven said:
Anyone use these?


Interesting concept, with a plastic switch you snap into one of two positions for use for continuous noise protection or for impulse noise protection.

They seem a bit too good to be true...inexpensive and they must have been tested properly if they are army issue..

Interested in any experience in the field (stalking or MOD use).

Suilven
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They are/were issued but in my opinion- for what its worth - a box ticker to avoid further legal action on hearing loss. I dont know a single person using them as intended, mine are an ok fit.

Anyone thats really expecting a lot of ‘noise’ is using over the ear electronic muffs with microphone.
 
Look a little like the old ones I was issued, but updated with a cord and an insert...

Prefer the Surefire ear plugs for regular use, with the electronic muffs for busier days
 
I’ve used the previous version with the ‘constant noise’ one end and the ‘impact noise filtered-ambient noise pass’ on the other end for a few thousand rounds of 5.56 and 3 deployments to Afghanistan without any long term adverse affects. They are the same protective element as my eep100 but without the electronic mic.
 
Suilven said:
Can't think of a better endorsement than that. Will look at those. Cheers Dave.

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Bear in mind, I have no idea of the figures, but I would imagine deer calibers and larger would have exponentially louder report than 5.56, so worth checking the dB figures for anything you were considering, the facts won’t lie
 
Something to bearing mind (having used the issue items signigicantly) is after a while the harden slightly making harder to get a good seal, or they work there way out of the inner ear easier. You only notice after pooping in a new pair the difference.

Also at some point youre going to have to pick ear wax out of the hole that goes through the middle if you want to hear conversation!

Good for maintaining situational awareness but if your banging away all day I go for eletonic ampivox.
 
Dave Lakes said:
Bear in mind, I have no idea of the figures, but I would imagine deer calibers and larger would have exponentially louder report than 5.56, so worth checking the dB figures for anything you were considering, the facts won’t lie
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Honestly: simply not the case.
5.56mm out of a military barrel runs in the region of 160dB
Which is the same as .308W out of a 22” barrel.
Clearly, the commercial magnums of 7mm and larger are noisier: typically somewhere up in the higher 160dBs.
But even that is not exponential.

Military ear defenders have, by contrast, definitely become exponentially better over the last two decades, albeit from a pretty low base! The costs to governments of hearing loss cases risked becoming punitive.
 
Sash said:
Honestly: simply not the case.
5.56mm out of a military barrel runs in the region of 160dB
Which is the same as .308W out of a 22” barrel.
Clearly, the commercial magnums of 7mm and larger are noisier: typically somewhere up in the higher 160dBs.
But even that is not exponential.

Military ear defenders have, by contrast, definitely become exponentially better over the last two decades, albeit from a pretty low base! The costs to governments of hearing loss cases risked becoming punitive.
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Cheers Sash, I didn’t have a clue, just didn’t want someone blowing out their ear drums with the wrong protection
 
I’ve found the issued Surefires EP4 good. I can wear them all day in comfort which is rare.
 
Sash said:
Honestly: simply not the case.
5.56mm out of a military barrel runs in the region of 160dB
Which is the same as .308W out of a 22” barrel.
Clearly, the commercial magnums of 7mm and larger are noisier: typically somewhere up in the higher 160dBs.
But even that is not exponential.
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For others' benefit, the dB scale is exponential. A difference of 3dB is about twice the power ratio and 160dBs is 10,000 times the 120dB level for instantaneous hearing damage. I've seen 170dB given as the level recorded at the ear 1 m sideways from a .30-06. 160-170dB is close to the loudest noise it is possible to make on Earth(190ish dB), which may explain why different cartridges are not so different in noise level as you might expect.
Sash said:
Military ear defenders have, by contrast, definitely become exponentially better over the last two decades, albeit from a pretty low base! The costs to governments of hearing loss cases risked becoming punitive.
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Given the scale of squandering and waste by the MoD alone the cost of hearing loss cases could never exceed a rounding error, let alone become punitive. If the entire army took a million quid each in the same year, it wouldn't exceed the rest of the government's waste.
 
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