Trophy imports ban

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Paragraph 2 on the listed Bill What a joke!

Registration of existing hunting trophies (1) Hunting trophies imported into the United Kingdom prior to this Act coming 20 into force shall be registered with the Secretary of State. (2) The owner of the hunting trophy must— (a) give their name and address; (b) 25 provide a description of the item and of any distinguishing features that it has; Bill 89 58/2 Hunting Trophy Import (Prohibition) Bill 1 (c) provide a photograph of the item showing any such features; (d) make a declaration that the item was imported prior to the enactment of the legislation; (e) 5 provide documentation relating to its importation, including proof of date of importation; (f) provide proof of provenance, and if of a CITES-listed species, evidence of the relevant CITES permit
 
I believe the first motion is set for this Friday and Boris has said he wants a complete ban on imports to serve as an example for other countries. At least that’s what I’m told I could be wrong. I hope I’m wrong.
 
So the import ban has been approved today but they have not given the date. 7000 endangered species on it.(inc plants, insects etc.) They even class African Buffalo as endangered. It may even include exports from the UK!!
 
Safari Hunter said:
So the import ban has been approved today but they have not given the date. 7000 endangered species on it.(inc plants, insects etc.) They even class African Buffalo as endangered. It may even include exports from the UK!!
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I think Defra is proposing its own bill which will go before Parliament:

BASC responds to Defra announcement on banning hunting trophies

Read our statement following the announcement by Defra’s that it is set to introduce an import ban on hunting trophies.
basc.org.uk basc.org.uk
 
The Beater said:
I think Defra is proposing its own bill which will go before Parliament:

BASC responds to Defra announcement on banning hunting trophies

Read our statement following the announcement by Defra’s that it is set to introduce an import ban on hunting trophies.
basc.org.uk basc.org.uk
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If you follow through the link to the DEFRA site, then these paragraphs under the section "Policy Reponse" seem relevant:

We will do this by introducing legislation to ban the import of hunting trophies from species of global conservation concern. Species in scope of the ban will be those listed on Annex A and B of the UK Wildlife Trade Regulations and any other species not covered by these regulations but subject to hunting and of particular conservation concern (namely those assessed by the International Union for Conservation of Nature as Near Threatened, Vulnerable, Endangered, Critically Endangered or Extinct in the Wild). We will keep this under review as new evidence emerges around species’ conservation status and threat. For all species in scope, the import of hunting trophies from both wild and captive-bred animals will be banned.

Existing CITES controls under the Wildlife Trade Regulations will remain in place for exports of hunting trophies from the UK. This measure will not ban the practice of trophy hunting itself or ownership of hunting trophies. These two concepts were not included in the scope of the consultation and call for evidence.
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Only 4,550 people supported any option other than a total ban on all hunting trophies being imported or exported. That's a very disappointing response from the shooting community.
 
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Only 4,550 people supported any option other than a total ban on all hunting trophies being imported or exported. That's a very disappointing response from the shooting community.
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Indeed, and reading the details of the consultation it says that they received 44,000 responses, including "37,254 responses via email (of which approximately 5,800 were campaign linked, and a further 24,000 responses drew on campaign text)."

Digging in a bit further it then states that:

Approximately 1,235 email responses contained “I support option 3 - a ban on all hunting trophies entering or leaving the UK”, which indicated that it was likely to be linked to or inspired by a campaign. A further 24,000 email responses contained variations of that text.

One petition was submitted as part of the consultation from UK Deer Stalking with 269 respondents expressing their support for maintaining current controls.
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So those in favour of a ban managed to get over 25,000 responses submitted via an orchestrated campaign. Those against managed 269.

If ever there was a demonstration of just how lacklustre and ineffective the UK shooting community is, you can see it here. Sad to say, but we really only have ourselves to blame. In this game, numbers count.
 
If my memory serves me correct, BASC provided members with suggested responses to the consultation, and also made a submission to Defra. I naively wrote to my MP.....a hunting man who was not willing to support our case.
 
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willie_gunn said:
Indeed, and reading the details of the consultation it says that they received 44,000 responses, including "37,254 responses via email (of which approximately 5,800 were campaign linked, and a further 24,000 responses drew on campaign text)."

Digging in a bit further it then states that:



So those in favour of a ban managed to get over 25,000 responses submitted via an orchestrated campaign. Those against managed 269.

If ever there was a demonstration of just how lacklustre and ineffective the UK shooting community is, you can see it here. Sad to say, but we really only have ourselves to blame. In this game, numbers count.
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Totally right with the shooting community in general. Lets see how some respond when they add banning of exporting deer trophies to the list. A few will wake up then. I did see on here a while ago someone saying they didn't care as they do not shoot overseas, that's exactly the point here.
 
I wonder if anyone bothered to read out to parliament the letter from the African village chiefs and PHs.This will have an effect on them as it’s they who will lose the income.Bet Carrie and co are laughing their socks off,pity Boris when she rolls over and says no I’m to tired.
 
If it’s as broad as not allowing buffalo to be imported then it really will knacker things. Initially thought it might be more specific along the lines of lions etc.

Is there any realistic course to email defra? Or chance of BASC amending it?
 
I have just had a look and it does seem to include buffalo and zebra. Would it stop me going to Africa and leaving the trophy there? No, it would not. It seems a great pity that you could not bring a memento back and very disappointing that yet again, politicians do not care about real facts or experience on the ground when it comes to Africa, but that has probably been true for the last 70 years.

It still doesn't take the opportunity away from us. I was speaking to a stalker on a large estate in the North and very few guests actually take their antlers away with them.

For me, the motivation in going to Africa is the experience, rather than the trophy.
 
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