Ridiculous rates for ammunition will end recreational shooting

[Norfolk Deer Search]

So you'd be happy to pay £100 per round?

Exclusionist mentalities are part of the problem, if not enough people shoot/stalk, not enough people will care when efforts are made by the politicians to curtail fieldsports.

In fact, if enough people are ignorant enough to be swayed by the anti's, they lobby politicians to enact laws and legislations which are not in our best interest and be potentially damaging to the countryside.

Look at Wild Justice, trophy import ban etc.

Has it entered you mind that high ammo and component prices are a form of de-facto gun control to discourage recreational shooting?

Or do you think it's better to exclude everyone who can't meet the ever rising barriers to entry?

Where did i say i would pay £100 a round?

All i am saying is moan all you like, its not going to get you anywhere!

Recreational shooting is knackered!

If i were you i would get used to the idea, that in less that 20 years recreational shooting will be gone.

 

[Bowland blades]

Is that a 6.5 Creedmoor?

Copper bullets and ammunition is definitely not 3/4 times more expensive in fact probably not even double.

No ! Why does that matter anyway?
It's £50 for 50 bullets , when did we pay £100 for 100 jacketed lead ?

 

[Alantoo]

No ! Why does that matter anyway?
It's £50 for 50 bullets , when did we pay £100 for 100 jacketed lead ?

 

[Lancaster]

No ! Why does that matter anyway?
It's £50 for 50 bullets , when did we pay £100 for 100 jacketed lead ?

130gn .270 Nosler Accubond and Partitions have been a pound a bullet for a while, Partitions are now £58 for 50.

 

[Bowland blades]

130gn .270 Nosler Accubond and Partitions have been a pound a bullet for a while, Partitions are now £58 for 50.

Really ? Years since I bought any noslers . My policy is to find what I preffer and buy a lot . I didn't pay anything like that for seirra or hornady this past years although they are not Partitions type they are very good bullets.
Fully understand why copper are more expensive being machined

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Dauntsy Guns calling bullets heads ****ism is alive and well.
Cartridges are boomers, heads are for bashing against walls agh!!!

 

[Lancaster]

Really ? Years since I bought any noslers . My policy is to find what I preffer and buy a lot . I didn't pay anything like that for seirra or hornady this past years although they are not Partitions type they are very good bullets.
Fully understand why copper are more expensive being machined

Yep, some of the copper bullets are cheaper than their premium counterparts in lead and I consider many of the current crop of copper bullets as being a premium bullet.

 

[Franchi Matt]

And as for inflation, well the electorate voted for Boris. We were all warned of dangers of Brexit, and then the dangers of Boris. But we told we are whining remoaners, communists, lefties etc etc etc.

The country is hugely in debt, we rely on cheap imports all of which require hard currency to buy and we have to compete on the global market for everything we import. Nobody wants British goods and services - they simply don’t trust the UK so our currency is devalued, which compounds the fact that we have to compete on the global market, making everything we buy even more expensive.

And as for wages going up, well if employers are having to pay more for the goods, their margins are going down, so that means less money to pay wages, and certainly much less money to pay bonuses etc.

And because of our political shenanigans, capital is moving away from the UK - investors can move their capital elsewhere, which means lack of investment in the UK, which means less competitiveness, which means continued downward spiral.

I have lived and worked in the developing world, believe me we have seen nothing yet. Take Zimbabwe - a basic new Toyota Hilux costs over US$100,000 by the time it arrives in the country and all the import taxes, sales taxes etc etc are paid. A typical middle class Zimbabwean still cannot afford a car.

Remoaners
Acid reflux and ulcers all round lol

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Remoaners
Acid reflux and ulcers all round lol

He is just having an open eyes approach to the real financial world.
Were you ever years ago a BLMC customer trying to justify buying that crap?

 

[Franchi Matt]

He is just having an open eyes approach to the real financial world.

Thats daft... not like theres anything he can do about it.
Gaviscon is his only chance now.

 

[Heym SR20]

He is just having an open eyes approach to the real financial world.
Were you ever years ago a BLMC customer trying to justify buying that crap?

Thanks - no point arguing with these idiots. And of course you can no longer call them Gullible, because Boris removed that word from the lexicon along with decency, honesty, rule of law and many others that would be inconvenient to him when he came to power.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Thats daft... not like theres anything he can do about it.
Gaviscon is his only chance now.

Emigration? I did it and glad I did, then again my missus was German so I did Vas I Vas told to do, "oder die blasen stoppen"!!! .

 

[badmolassesaccident]

Remoaners
Acid reflux and ulcers all round lol

Well, to keep it on topic and firearms related even with the higher price of ammo, which is worldwide, I'm still waiting for a credible answer from anyone on how I am going to do my trip to Denmark for a week or so of target shooting, with 3 guns and around 12kg of ammo. That is, without obtaining separate firearms permits for France, Belgium, Germany and Denmark first. There's something totally useless with European Firearms Pass written on it in my filing cabinet.

 

[Franchi Matt]

Thanks - no point arguing with these idiots. And of course you can no longer call them Gullible,

Ah - now I found this type of comment a lot amongst remainers.

The 'I know more than you, you are beneath me' attitude.
Once the NHS gets back on its feet the next financially crippling condition to hit the NHS is going to be narcissism.

 

[Pine Marten]

Recreational shooting is knackered!

If i were you i would get used to the idea, that in less that 20 years recreational shooting will be gone.

No it won't, it will be just be different, same as everything else. Stuff changes, not just in shooting, but it's OK, we will adapt.

 

[Bowland blades]

No it won't, it will be just be different, same as everything else. Stuff changes, not just in shooting, but it's OK, we will adapt.

Exactly, if the government found it practical or workable to ban all civilian firearms it would have been done a long while back
In recent times we have actually seen sound moderator grants become a heck of a lot easier to obtain , expanding bullets de-classified and I many areas open and closed conditions dumped , ammo in the form of bullets (heads ) available to post from retailer to private homes .
With many sectors calling for more deer culling at present , I doubt any stalking folks are in for a lot more strife
So new grants need medical records checks , you need that for a HGV ! We cannot have another preventable massacre of the innocent. Most of the incidents that have occurred are directly related to mental health

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Well, to keep it on topic and firearms related even with the higher price of ammo, which is worldwide, I'm still waiting for a credible answer from anyone on how I am going to do my trip to Denmark for a week or so of target shooting, with 3 guns and around 12kg of ammo. That is, without obtaining separate firearms permits for France, Belgium, Germany and Denmark first. There's something totally useless with European Firearms Pass written on it in my filing cabinet.

The UK"s European Firearms Pass was voted by 52% of the voters to be made into totally useless toilet paper.
My German one is still fully effective over most of Europe although it did cost me some Euros to get it issued, the palaver ref taking firearms into the UK has not changed though so now after UK"s leaving of the EU why should it not be the same in reverse? I am still expected to do all the hoop jumping at this present time and it was so even before Brexit because the EFP did not cover taking boomsticks into the UK or Sweden and a few other places TMK.

 

[Heym SR20]

Emigration? I did it and glad I did, then again my missus was German so I did Vas I Vas told to do, "oder die blasen stoppen"!!! .

Sadly, thanks to that 52%, many of us who would like to leave cannot, because as we now find every single European country actually has complete control over its own immigration requirements, and given our government stance, most have put very tough reciprocal arrangements and hurdles in place. Unless you are either very wealthy, or have very special skills, if you are over 50 you can pretty much forget it. If you are under 50, have at least 6 years post qualification expertise and your sponsor / employer can demonstrate that they cannot find an alternative from the EU you might after several months get a work permit.

I have looked into this quite seriously for myself, and options are really very limited.

So those 52% who voted will just have to get used to all of us asking the awkward questions and pointing the error of the ways. Seriously can any body actually demonstrate a positive result from Boris’ Brexit.

 

[Bowland blades]

Sadly, thanks to that 52%, many of us who would like to leave cannot, because as we now find every single European country actually has complete control over its own immigration requirements, and given our government stance, most have put very tough reciprocal arrangements and hurdles in place. Unless you are either very wealthy, or have very special skills, if you are over 50 you can pretty much forget it. If you are under 50, have at least 6 years post qualification expertise and your sponsor / employer can demonstrate that they cannot find an alternative from the EU you might after several months get a work permit.

I have looked into this quite seriously for myself, and options are really very limited.

So those 52% who voted will just have to get used to all of us asking the awkward questions and pointing the error of the ways. Seriously can any body actually demonstrate a positive result from Boris’ Brexit.

Lots ! But it's not Boris brexit its the people's referendum brexit . We can now deal with our old collionial friends without jumping through EU hoops and can negotiate our own deals . Now I know Germany and France can break all the rules that other members cannot . But remember this was a majorty vote by the public and that's far from just the knuckle draggers
I buy littlevfrom Germany and maybe nothing from France personally and that's not on purpose really . The ballance of trade was entirely wrong for us to be the second biggest EU investor

 

[Liveonce]

Who remembers prices like this? And primers £10 a thousand.