.270 reloading

[wildfowler.250]

Looking for some suggestions folks. I’d started load development with the .270 last year then lost track of it with other things,(as a result I’ve been mainly using the 6.5x55 in between).

Starting load was: cci large rifle br2, Norma brass, viht N160 and accubond 130 grain.

The better groups were around the 55.6 grains N160 to 56.2 . Does this seem a reasonable charge to settle on? The max seems to be around 58 in the viht app.

I need to go back and reload a few more and see where things are. Groups were around 0.5” but I did the odd flier to open up the group so worth shooting a few more targets.

Out of interest, does a 0.3 grain jump seem about right? Or should I narrow it down more now because I have a rough ball park range?

Cheers!

 

[Tim.243]

Looking for some suggestions folks. I’d started load development with the .270 last year then lost track of it with other things,(as a result I’ve been mainly using the 6.5x55 in between).

Starting load was: cci large rifle br2, Norma brass, viht N160 and accubond 130 grain.

The better groups were around the 55.6 grains N160 to 56.2 . Does this seem a reasonable charge to settle on? The max seems to be around 58 in the viht app.

I need to go back and reload a few more and see where things are. Groups were around 0.5” but I did the odd flier to open up the group so worth shooting a few more targets.

Out of interest, does a 0.3 grain jump seem about right? Or should I narrow it down more now because I have a rough ball park range?

Cheers!

A150 head 56gns n165 215 primers that is what is in mine....

 

[Woodsmoke]

The better groups were around the 55.6 grains N160 to 56.2 . Does this seem a reasonable charge to settle on? The max seems to be around 58 in the viht app.

Sounds reasonable. I use 54 grains of H4831 with a 130 soft point. No complaints whatsoever. Never exceed with this powder is 60 grains, so you're right on the money

 

[Sampo]

Get a pocket book and write things down. Has helped many a times with fading memory. Anything shooting, stalking, reloading, new purchases goes into the book. If I can't find the book, its a different issue Might have to drill a hole through it and leave it tied to the table in the future.

 

[User00040]

270 Win performs best when driven to 3,100 fps+ with 130 grain bullets, anything less and you would be better off with a short action chambering.

 

[25 Sharps]

Get a pocket book and write things down. Has helped many a times with fading memory. Anything shooting, stalking, reloading, new purchases goes into the book. If I can't find the book, its a different issue Might have to drill a hole through it and leave it tied to the table in the future.

I have a load development book and second smaller book for pet loads, without all the development stuff. So if I lose the development book I still have all the loads.

Haven’t lost it yet though!!

 

[paul o']

I load 130 gr with N160 56GR fed215 primers shoots bug holes lol .

 

[wildfowler.250]

A150 head 56gns n165 215 primers that is what is in mine....

Perfect, thanks!

Sounds reasonable. I use 54 grains of H4831 with a 130 soft point. No complaints whatsoever. Never exceed with this powder is 60 grains, so you're right on the money

Just what I’m after, glad to know it’s the right ‘ball park’.

Get a pocket book and write things down. Has helped many a times with fading memory. Anything shooting, stalking, reloading, new purchases goes into the book. If I can't find the book, its a different issue Might have to drill a hole through it and leave it tied to the table in the future.

Definitely going to have to do this. Currently I’ve loads of photographs of targets saved on the phone

270 Win performs best when driven to 3,100 fps+ with 130 grain bullets, anything less and you would be better off with a short action chambering.

Thanks, appreciate the number. I’ve no chrono. The app suggest that the full 58 grains would give around 3,1000. Maybe 56 will be somewhere in the 2,700 range

I have a load development book and second smaller book for pet loads, without all the development stuff. So if I lose the development book I still have all the loads.

Haven’t lost it yet though!!

Good to have a backup to the backup!

I load 130 gr with N160 56GR fed215 primers shoots bug holes lol .

Great, seems to be the 54-56 grains is the common theme. I’m sure for 100fps here and there it won’t make any odds on the deer but it’s nice to know you’re in the optimum area.

 

[Tim.243]

Perfect, thanks!

Just what I’m after, glad to know it’s the right ‘ball park’.

Definitely going to have to do this. Currently I’ve loads of photographs of targets saved on the phone

Thanks, appreciate the number. I’ve no chrono. The app suggest that the full 58 grains would give around 3,1000. Maybe 56 will be somewhere in the 2,700 range

Good to have a backup to the backup!


Great, seems to be the 54-56 grains is the common theme. I’m sure for 100fps here and there it won’t make any odds on the deer but it’s nice to know you’re in the optimum area.

215 mag primer tuned by Paul laser O

 

[Woodsmoke]

I’ve no chrono. The app suggest that the full 58 grains would give around 3,1000. Maybe 56 will be somewhere in the 2,700 range

You should be almost spot on at that then. I've slowed my .270 down as I shoot a lot of roe and wanted it to be more versatile. It's a superb roe load, with minimal carcass damage and still carries enough power for reds at sensible ranges. What manual are you using? The Lee manual gives a velocity factor per grain of powder to give you a pretty good idea of what your mv should be for any given load

 

[enfieldspares]

I think the .270 WCF is better for the UK with bullets at lower velocity in fact. In the 2,800 to 2,900 fps range maximum. My loads...safe in my rifle they may well be unsafe in anyone else's rifle...were:

August 2007:
140 grn Hornady Interlock BTSP
52.4 grn Viht N160 = 2,858 fps.

With the same bullet but using standard length "long grain" H4831 my results were as below:
55.4 gns H4831 = 2.856 fps.
56.0 gns H4831 = 2,867 fps.
56.5 gns H5831 = 2892 fps.
56.8 gns = 2.905 fps

November 2008:
150 grain Hornady Interlock FLATBASE
55.0 gns H4831 = 2809 fps.

All above in a 23.5 inch BRNO ZKK 600 and all above loaded with CCI Standard Large Rifle Primer.

Factory loaded Hornady Frontier that was a 140 grain bullet #8505 cartridges in the same rifle gave velocity of 2,952 fps when tested in November 2007.

 

[Leec6.5]

Sounds reasonable. I use 54 grains of H4831 with a 130 soft point. No complaints whatsoever. Never exceed with this powder is 60 grains, so you're right on the money

That there Sir is the Queen of loads for the Queen of calibres!

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

56gr N160 upwards for 130gr

 

[User00040]

I think the .270 WCF is better for the UK with bullets at lower velocity in fact. In the 2,800 to 2,900 fps range maximum.

Care to explain why?

 

[Woodsmoke]

That there Sir is the Queen of loads for the Queen of calibres!

Just checked my notes, and my load gives 2745fps (ish) in my rifle. It's a full two grains below the Lee start load recommendations, but it's still way over a half-case so it's perfectly safe. I tend not to push it past 200 yards as it's a 4" drop at that range and just tends to fall off the cliff past that. It has a 15" drop at 300, but I wouldn't push it that far

 

[enfieldspares]

Care to explain why?

Yes. In the UK the recreational rifle will aim to stalk his or her deer with the aim of getting a shot at one hundred yards or less. That's the skill. Or for the woodland stalker wandering through the woods or in a high seat maybe fifty or seventy-five yards. We have no need of a "beanfield rifle" at such ranges. Even when hind culling two hundred or two hundred and fifty yards is the most likely distance with maybe three hundred yards at most?

 

[Woodsmoke]

Yes. In the UK the recreational rifle will aim to stalk his or her deer with the aim of getting a shot at one hundred yards or less. That's the skill. Or for the woodland stalker wandering through the woods or in a high seat maybe fifty or seventy-five yards. We have no need of a "beanfield rifle" at such ranges. Even when hind culling two hundred or two hundred and fifty yards is the most likely distance with maybe three hundred yards at most?

Absolutely this The beauty of the .270 though, is that it's so versatile. Sure it has a limited range of bullet weights, but that's purely down to the fact it just doesn't need a wide range of bullet weights

 

[User00040]

Yes. In the UK the recreational rifle will aim to stalk his or her deer with the aim of getting a shot at one hundred yards or less. That's the skill. Or for the woodland stalker wandering through the woods or in a high seat maybe fifty or seventy-five yards. We have no need of a "beanfield rifle" at such ranges. Even when hind culling two hundred or two hundred and fifty yards is the most likely distance with maybe three hundred yards at most?

Totally disagree.

Anyone intentionally under-loading (for whatever reason, such as supposed barrel life concerns, coming from the same people who don't clean their rifle properly...) their centrefire rounds for use on deer and similar game shows negligence towards good handloading practice and lack of respect for their quarry (bad sign if you have deer running a long way after a solid hit to the vitals).

Speed kills.

 

[enfieldspares]

Speed kills.

And too much speed is too destructive. I've no concern over barrel life. It's simply that at the distances I shoot...sometimes fifty yards...I do not want a conventional "cup and core" bullet that's travelling at over three thousand feet per second hitting the beast. Two thousand seven hundred feet per second when the bullet strikes is IMHO the optimum velocity.

 

[Woodsmoke]

Anyone intentionally under-loading (for whatever reason, such as supposed barrel life concerns, coming from the same people who don't clean their rifle properly...) their centrefire rounds for use on deer and similar game shows negligence towards good handloading practice and lack of respect for their quarry

Disagree all you like. Do what you like with your own loads, and your own rifles. I see nothing in your posts on this thread that are actually pertinent to the actual thread subject.

And as for your observations regarding 'good handloading practice' and 'respect for quarry'? I respectfully suggest you climb down from that ivory tower before you fall off and hurt yourself