Sat up you've got 18"-2ft its a bit like shooting, at largest target you'll ever get. Approx 3'6" from head to lower regions.It’s not the modern kit that’s incapable of rangey shots but the operator .I’ve no problem relating to either scenario and will happily take a fox at circa 300 paces ,paces that is so whatever the corresponding meterage is .
Used to confirm myself to under 100 with lamp and meopta scope on the .243 but happily shoot the distance with the hawke and pard on the .223 .
Difference has been going out with another lad who does those shots with ease .Rightly or wrongly I tried it and result=dead foxes .
Some want to do it for bragging rights I know but to me it’s just another string to the bow when faced with a fox that won’t play ball and come running in like a dog .
Inch high at 100 ,straight at it at 300 .Like Tim 243 said though I prefer my foxes sat up and face on for a rangey shot .More room for error I feel which is more of a confidence thing I’d say .
Yes that is exactly what you doJust turn the rifle on its side Mark ,cuts out the windage![]()
Not necessarily so. My strides work out pretty close via a range finder.300 paces = 225 yds approx. Once read an article on pacing out steps that stated 100 paces for the average man equals 75 yds.
West Midlands eh, that stride wouldn't be due to it being the home of my late favourite politician would it. The only one I know who ever spoke the truth.Some may shuffle their feet but some of us do a variation of the goose step!
I don't know friend. I avoid politics if possible at all costs.West Midlands eh, that stride wouldn't be due to it being the home of my late favourite politician would it. The only one I know who ever spoke the truth.
I would say my average range is 150 but I have taken them out to 390 with NV and regularly between 200-300.Guys
who shoots further than 275 yds doing fox control and if so what calibre are you using and what scope, day, NV or TI
as a rule of thumb I regularly practice out to 300 yds on a fox target with my 222,204,243, 6.5 and 308, I don't shoot out that far 250 is my go to distance but its good to know your limitation and ability to accurately shoot to 300
there is such a lot of kit out there now which apparently increases the distance by a long chalk, personally I’m not happy over 250 ish yds, if your out on the hill etc that shot is a safe shot, if your on it, I’m just wondering if we are stretching a line a bit toooooo far with the shoot to kill it seems that its shoot and see whats happens, this is for foxes not deer, ( still the same IMO) gear coming on the market now seems to accelerate this and I’m not sure we aren’t making a rod for our own back
just my thoughts
I don’t condone bragging but there is a sense of achievement from executing a humane shot at longer range when the need arises.I don’t understand the bragging of how far a fox was shot etc.
Over the years I’ve shot and seen more foxes shot with a .22lr and most seen under 60yards.
With NV people have the advantage of watching and seeing routines. This means you can sit and wait to get a nice shot at a killing range.
Last sentence perfectly correct, my problem with long shots is particularly at night. Very difficult unless you are intimately associated with every inch of your ground to be sure of a backstop or even lack of humans. I admit I don't have thermal but have had the experience of a couple appearing it would seem out of the ground about 100yds beyond the fox and that was with a lamp.I don’t condone bragging but there is a sense of achievement from executing a humane shot at longer range when the need arises.
Modern rifles, optics and projectiles are more than capable of the accuracy and delivering the energy needed at extended ranges to humanly take a fox. Provided the shooter is competent and has a stable shooting platform I see no issue with it.
Most centrefire rifles used for foxing are more accurate and have far more energy at 250 yards than a 22lr at 60 yards!
I totally agree with your point, you need to know your ground well and be 100% sure the shot is clear.Last sentence perfectly correct, my problem with long shots is particularly at night. Very difficult unless you are intimately associated with every inch of your ground to be sure of a backstop or even lack of humans. I admit I don't have thermal but have had the experience of a couple appearing it would seem out of the ground about 100yds beyond the fox and that was with a lamp.
I totally agree thermal is marvellous at spotting what's out and about at night, but take it from me, it doesn't see everything as anyone who's looked for a shot fox in long grass will know.I totally agree with your point, you need to know your ground well and be 100% sure the shot is clear.
Most of my ground is large, hilly fields so I can see a good distance with the thermal to ensure it’s safe.
People do pop up in strange places at strange times though!![]()
I have done over double that once , the fox didn't take a step .! It's rare I really want a fox inside 200 yards but sometimes needs must . The wind was easy and tge range although long in travel I was shooting up a steep incline in broad daylight from a good stance as it tried to call the cubs I had just done with the vixen done the evening before . The dog would have intended to move them to another vixen but had twigged I was about , unfortunately for him he thought he was at a safe distance and he would have been if it was horizontal distance or if there was a difficult wind that morningGuys
who shoots further than 275 yds doing fox control and if so what calibre are you using and what scope, day, NV or TI
as a rule of thumb I regularly practice out to 300 yds on a fox target with my 222,204,243, 6.5 and 308, I don't shoot out that far 250 is my go to distance but its good to know your limitation and ability to accurately shoot to 300
there is such a lot of kit out there now which apparently increases the distance by a long chalk, personally I’m not happy over 250 ish yds, if your out on the hill etc that shot is a safe shot, if your on it, I’m just wondering if we are stretching a line a bit toooooo far with the shoot to kill it seems that its shoot and see whats happens, this is for foxes not deer, ( still the same IMO) gear coming on the market now seems to accelerate this and I’m not sure we aren’t making a rod for our own back
just my thoughts
Hi MikeI totally agree thermal is marvellous at spotting what's out and about at night, but take it from me, it doesn't see everything as anyone who's looked for a shot fox in long grass will know.
So all is not lost.