Documents for hunting in Germany

[Hind.on.stalker]

I have question I hope someone more experienced than me can help with -I've searched the internet but to no avail..

I'm lucky enough to be invited to a driven hunt in Germany in November.
I am borrowing a rifle as that seems the easiest option as I may fly with my family.
My host is preparing a German Hunting License for me and has requested amongst other documents a notarised translation of my license.
I asked him to clarify if it is my firearms certificate that he needs translated and he seems to think it is.
He also expects me to send him the original in due course -this I'm hesitant to do.
To save testing his patience I though I'd check here what he will definitely need.
I have here an uncertified translation of my BASC insurance, scan of my passport , DSC1 scan and then my FAC.
Can someone please clarify if I need to FAC translated word for word and notarised?
Many thanks

 

[pete evans]

When I went I was also asked for a schiessnachweis test. Paul at corinium range at Cirencester organised this for me, it’s pretty straightforward. I’m interested in this thread as I’m going again in December and things may have changed since my last pre brexit visit. I’m planning to take my own rifle

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Here is Bavaria.
Anerkannte Jägerprüfungen:
Ausländer können einen Jahresjagdschein erhalten, wenn sie eine gleichwertige Jägerprüfung bestanden haben. Als gleichwertige Jägerprüfung werden folgende Jägerprüfungen anerkannt:
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Jagdprüfungen der ehemaligen DDR:Jagd-Eignungsprüfung beziehungsweise die Jagdprüfung für Jäger, die mit der Jagdwaffe die Jagd ausüben wollen
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Jägerprüfungen der österreichischen Bundesländer
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Jägerprüfungen folgender schweizerischer Kantone: Aargau, Basel-Land, Basel-Stadt, Bern, Genf, Graubünden, Luzern, Neuchatel, Schaffhausen, Solothurn, St. Gallen, Thurgau, Wallis, Vaud, Zürich, Zug
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Jägerprüfung Luxemburgs seit 25. Mai 1972 (amtliche Bezeichnung: „Examen d‘aptitude pour la délivrance du premier persmi de chasse “)
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Jägerprüfung der Niederlande seit 1. Januar 1978 (amtliche Bezeichnung: „KNJV/PBNA – Jachtexamen – Koninklijke Nederlandse Jagersvereniging/Polytechnisch Buro Nederland Arnhem “)
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Jägerprüfung der Autonomen Provinz Bozen – Südtirol (Italien)
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Jägerprüfung Schwedens seit 1. Januar 1985 (amtliche Bezeichnung: „Svensk jägarexamen “)
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Jägerprüfung bzw. höhere Jägerprüfung der ehemaligen Tschechoslowakei seit dem 1. Januar 1960
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Jägerprüfung Polens, soweit zusätzlich die Berechtigung zur Selektion des Edelwildes erworben wurde.

Google translate.
Recognized hunter exams:
Foreigners can obtain an annual hunting license if they have passed an equivalent hunter's test. The following hunter tests are recognized as equivalent hunter tests:
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Hunting tests in the former GDR: Hunting aptitude test or the hunting test for hunters who want to hunt with a hunting weapon
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Hunter examinations of the Austrian federal states
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Hunting examinations in the following Swiss cantons: Aargau, Basel-Land, Basel-Stadt, Bern, Geneva, Graubünden, Lucerne, Neuchatel, Schaffhausen, Solothurn, St. Gallen, Thurgau, Valais, Vaud, Zurich, Zug
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Hunter's examination in Luxembourg since May 25, 1972 (official name: "Examen d'aptitude pour la délivrance du premier persmi de chasse")
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Hunter's examination of the Netherlands since January 1, 1978 (official name: "KNJV/PBNA - Jachtexamen - Koninklijke Nederlandse Jagersvereniging/Polytechnische Buro Nederland Arnhem")
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Hunter's examination of the Autonomous Province of Bozen - South Tyrol (Italy)
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Hunter's examination in Sweden since January 1, 1985 (official name: "Svensk jägarexamen")
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Jägerprüfung or higher Jägerprüfung of the former Czechoslovakia since January 1, 1960
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Hunter's examination in Poland, insofar as the authorization to select noble game has also been acquired.

 

[Steff]

Ok, I will try to sort this out for you.

First you need to understand the basics of licencing re. hunting and guns in Germany.
In order to be allowed to perform any actions related to the trailing or killing of animals which underly the German hunting law (Jagdgesetz) you need to acquire a hunting licence (Jagdschein). This is usually done by following an extensive training over the course of more than half a year followed by a written, an oral/practical and a shooting test. There are also crash courses on offer which will compress the training into three weeks of all-day tutorials and practices.

The hunting licence is the precondition for being able to obtain firearms. Once you have a rifle and/or shotgun you will be issued a Waffenbesitzkarte (WBK) which is the equivelant to your FAC. But other than in the UK you don't need a FAC to buy a rifle, you need a hunting licence. The FAC is merely for documentation purposes. This is different for pure sport shooters and for handguns, but this not the topic here.

If a foreigner wants to hunt in Germany he must also aquire a German hunting licence. If this foreigner is not resident in Germany the authority of the region where he wants to hunt can issue an Ausländerjagdschein (Foreigner's hunting licence). There are two types. The Tagesjagdschein (Day Hunting Licence, valid for 14 consectutive days) and the Jahresjagdschein (valid for either one or three years).

The 14-day licence is the easiest to acquire. For the year licence you would also have to provide a certificate of non-objection issued by your local police authority.

The documents you need to provide for the 14-day licence are:
- ID card or passport
- Your local equivelant to the German Jagdschein (in your case the FAC and DSC1) and a notarised translation of these
- Proof of an insurance that will cover the minimum damage of EUR 500,000 for the injury of persons and EUR 50,000 for the damage of property
- Proof of a hunting opportunity (Invitation etc.) in the region where you are registering your appliction

These documents have to be handed in in advance together with the application. Once this is granted you may have to show up in person in order to pick up the licence. This is where the original of your FAC comes into play. If you don't need to pick it up personally and you don't want to send the original of your FAC to Germany a notarised copy should also do the job. As you will have to get the translation notarised anyway this should be no extra hassle.

Hope this helps. Waidmannsheil!

 

[Steff]

Oh, one thing I forgot.
If you are taking part in a driven hunt you will need to show a so called 'Schießnachweis' or 'Übungsnachweis' to the person who is responsible for this event. It needs to be renewed an annual basis, so it has to be dated 2022. This 'Proof of shooting practice' is required in the whole of Germany but has many local variants of how to obtain it. The most common one is (all at 50m shooting at wild boar target): 3 shots with the forearm of the rifle rested with the boar standing still, 3 shots offhand with the boar standing still and 3 shots offhand with the boar running. The oddity with this is that you don't need to meet any requirements as to the result. It is just a documentation of your ability to safely handle your rifle and fire a shot without killing anyone.

If you have ANYTHING that is similar to the above it will in most likelyhood be accepted.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Oh, one thing I forgot.
If you are taking part in a driven hunt you will need to show a so called 'Schießnachweis' or 'Übungsnachweis' to the person who is responsible for this event. It needs to be renewed an annual basis, so it has to be dated 2022. This 'Proof of shooting practice' is required in the whole of Germany but has many local variants of how to obtain it. The most common one is (all at 50m shooting at wild boar target): 3 shots with the forearm of the rifle rested with the boar standing still, 3 shots offhand with the boar standing still and 3 shots offhand with the boar running. The oddity with this is that you don't need to meet any requirements as to the result. It is just a documentation of your ability to safely handle your rifle and fire a shot without killing anyone.

If you have ANYTHING that is similar to the above it will in most likelyhood be accepted.

I could not have clarified it better.

 

[Hind.on.stalker]

Thank you Steff and Bavarianbrit. This makes it all a lot clearer.
I hope that my DSC1 being completed within the last year will be satisfactory for the 'proof of shooting practice' as that has a range shooting / rifle safety element to it.
I will obtain notarised translations of my DSC1 and FAC.
Quite glad I'm not arriving with my own rifle -would add another layer of complication I suspect.
The invitation/license application will be handled by my host which is also a relief!
Thanks again

 

[finnbear270]

If you are a B.A.S.C. member, they will send you a copy of the insurance / indemnities in German if you ring them.

 

[Hind.on.stalker]

Thanks finnbear, they sent me one yesterday

 

[Dalua]

When I went I was also asked for a schiessnachweis test. Paul at corinium range at Cirencester organised this for me, it’s pretty straightforward.

Certainly a useful facility: but there are advantages to having a little shoot on arrival in Germany in any case - whether to gain familiarity with a borrowed rifle, or to check that your own has survived intact despite the gentle attentions of the baggage-handlers. If time allows, then, a bit of range-time on arrival might be the way forward.