What law is that you're referring to?Besides the law
They are not illegal in Ireland.
This is why I don’t like chest shots.
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They are not illegal in Ireland.
Hook'N'Bullet
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Yes they are, unless you have a section for it...
They are !
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Hook'N'Bullet
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Never really understood why, I know a few lads who use them.
You are cherry picking a quote from a blog, by the deer alliance group which is not law.
It's not illegal to use a thermal spotter in Ireland, you just need to apply for a section 42 licence.
It's like saying it's illegal to have a rifle in Ireland, it's not, you just need to apply for a firearms licence.
They're not, check the law.
Hook'N'Bullet
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If you click the link you will see the quoted section of the Wildlife act.
"you just need to apply for a section 42 licence." - Is that not what I just said in post #62? You're proving my point.
If you use one with or without a section, good for you by all means, I'm just trying to avoid spreading misinformation. You cant just walk into a shop buy it and go hunting with one.
Are you saying that if I apply for a Sec42 to use a thermal spotter for recreational deer stalking it will be granted ? I’ve had a couple of Sections in high amenity areas, the use of a lamp was granted but NV or thermal specifically prohibited.
Did you apply to use a thermal spotter and get refused?
No, a Sec 42 for night shooting. Lamp permitted, thermal/IR prohibited
Okeydokey.
What you said was they were illegal to use, that is spreading misinformation.
Using a quote from a blog by the deer alliance is a great way to go about this.
It's not even a grey area, they are not illegal full stop. You can buy them over the counter in Ireland.
Hook'N'Bullet
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Listen Fair Hill, this isn't a gang up or anything. Just watch out, don't want to be in trouble with the fuzz, us shooting lads have too much at stake, too much to lose. Your point about it being illegal to have a rifle in ireland - I get what you're trying to say but the logic can be applied to the thermals too.
Illegal to have rifle without a license
Illegal to have Thermal for the purpose of stalking deer without a "licence"/section 42
Whether you use one or not, I don't care in the slightest. I've used a friends one when foxing and they are brilliant but with regard to deer stalking, Garda are just waiting to take guns of lads.
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Hook'N'Bullet
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buying things over the counter doesn't necessarily make them legal.
Its a loophole in the law called "invitation to treat". Take a sword for example, not illegal to buy one on the high street, not illegal to have in your house, but you cant walk down the main street with it in your hand. Then its an offensive weapon. Same with your knife you use for the gralloch.
Also, post #62, I said they are illegal unless you have a section....which we are both agreeing on
More spreading of misinformation, I'm going to bow out of this back and forth now. Not because I feel I'm being ganged up on but I just have better things to be doing.
Hook'N'Bullet
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I've edited my post to make it more in line with the discussion
deerstalker.308
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I was agreeing with you….
Jagare
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Reading the OP´s post I don´t see a great deal wrong with the shooting. A couple of lost deer because of not having a trained dog to hand.
On the continent we don´t have to worry about pleasing the game dealer. we aim to put down the deer with a humane shot if we can. I take it that the clients had paid to shoot the deer and it seems that in the main they shot well. From my 35 years of stalking in the UK I seem to recall plenty of " stalkers " who were crap shots.
On the continent we don´t have to worry about pleasing the game dealer. we aim to put down the deer with a humane shot if we can. I take it that the clients had paid to shoot the deer and it seems that in the main they shot well. From my 35 years of stalking in the UK I seem to recall plenty of " stalkers " who were crap shots.
Dunwaters
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Possession and use of thermal/night vision is perfectly legal, but a night vision scope designed to fit on a firearm is itself defined as a firearm under the 1990 firearms act section 4, (g) 1.
So is a “ silencer”.
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You would suspect wrong, my thermal is in pretty much daily use for a good part of the year so I know the strengths and limitations of a TI.
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