On the basis of this certificate it would appear that the land has to be cleared before ANY of the rifles can be used
30-06 Too powerful for UK
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badmolassesaccident
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We don't have to like it or agree with it, but that is the law. Unlike cars, designer bags, Pokemon toys, fishing rods, motorbikes and Section 2 shotguns; for firearms you need a good reason to own every single one.
If that was the earlier post of a closed condition certificate, yes, the ground would need to be approved by the police for them big guns!
Dorset Shakari
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You don't play golf with only one club.
30-06 SxS for boar
30-06 with iron sights and low power scope set up for bushveld plains game.
30-06 with 25" barrel for Mouflon etc
30-06 set up for moderator
30-06 stutzen
Tight twist
Slow twist
Synthetic etc etc
Lots of variants for different applications.
With so many bullet weights there could be an argument for only allowing multiple 30-06s. In its various guises, it's all the rifle anyone needs. All within the spirit and letter of the law.
30-06 SxS for boar
30-06 with iron sights and low power scope set up for bushveld plains game.
30-06 with 25" barrel for Mouflon etc
30-06 set up for moderator
30-06 stutzen
Tight twist
Slow twist
Synthetic etc etc
Lots of variants for different applications.
With so many bullet weights there could be an argument for only allowing multiple 30-06s. In its various guises, it's all the rifle anyone needs. All within the spirit and letter of the law.
mickygism
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Exactly, rimfire for rabbits , maybe smaller centrefire for foxes, then a larger for deer. Full set of clubs.
This fella doesn’t need a 30-06
Sonicdmb73
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I had a little bit of trouble getting my 270. I had previously had one to acquire but didn’t fill the slot I one for one'd it.
However I had to give “Good Reason” FEO argued that there are only Roe on my local land and my 6.5 was big enough for them.
So I gave him the address of another of my other permissions that has Sika on it. Job sorted (eventually but that’s a different story).
I am going to be applying for a 30-06 myself as I know where there’s a cheap 202 I have my eye on.
I have Good Reason for a 30-06 so I will hopefully not have any issues getting it. But I won’t be surprised if I have to argue my case. It seems par for the course nowadays.
El Majorero
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Agreed and size isnt everything.
M. E.
El Majorero
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Good for our old salties.
M. E.
Scotty99
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The reason for rejection may well the fact that the OP has three other calibres that are deer legal rather than the 30-06 being too big a calibre. However there is a lot of inconsistency between different forces and even different FEOs. I’ve had at one time on my ticket and in my possession a .243, .308 and 30-06. All conditioned for deer and AOLQ, so neither the “too many calibres” or “too big a calibre” arguments were applied.
I did however have a request for a .375 H&H turned down with the comment “only if you book a trip to Africa”, which to be honest I thought was fair enough.
I did however have a request for a .375 H&H turned down with the comment “only if you book a trip to Africa”, which to be honest I thought was fair enough.
I was talking to two people yesterday both of whom have a .270 and a .243 and a 22 centre fire and have been told to sell the 243 as it is covered by the other two. As they live very close to each other I expect the same FEO was involved on thier renewals.
From what I hear anecdotally, it seems that forces are tightening up a lot now.
From what I hear anecdotally, it seems that forces are tightening up a lot now.
Jeff8861
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Yet more bs on here you need good reason provide proff or evidence and it won't be an issue. You already have three deer calibres get rid of the 308 or 270 and go with the 06. Re the inconsistency this is always going to happen it happens through every position. Someone gets one and some don't it's life. It may be down to the ones what did get them that they provided good reason and evidence that the do need them.
Stalker62
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Wold like to see the evidence for that wee story.
mickygism
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Sorry I don’t understand what you mean
Doesnt always follow. I have 243, so does my son in law. I applied for a 308 with permission on his land, no problem sir. He applied and was told no as he already had a deer legal calibre. I actually think sometimes it depends on the day, the weather, and if the FEO stepping in dogs do dah on his way to work!
I certainly believe it, as I know both well. I think the issue is that they are both using their rifles for red deer and fox only, so the argument was made that the .243s were surplus. They both share the same ground and I suspect don't buy a huge amount of ammunition.
22 centrefire for foxes;
243 for the smaller deer species;
270 for the larger deer species.
Can't see why any FEO would have an issue with that?
Namman
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What concerns me is the way some FEO s interpret and twist the law for their own agenda.
Do they undergo any formal nationall training? Are the appraised on a regular basis?
Being as most are ex police officers who have probably had years dealing with criminals not law abiding citizens who happen to own firearms.
Very often its a toss up between ignorance and obstruction.
I speak from experience.
Well if they've chosen not to shoot smaller species then I suppose the FEO has a point. But why would you choose not to, should the opportunity arise? Easy enough to create an opportunity to support your "good reason" for such an uncontroversial calubre as 243.
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Mowbray partners are headed up by an ex-policeman [Ken McIntosh]. I tend to agree with your assessment of FAC process overseers: years of working with criminals is likely to place the accent away from sporting facilitation.
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