Bavarianbrit
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Its worked, I will never buy one.
Hilux early chassis fail: rust perforation after 7 years and just 44k miles of road use in U.K.
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The Toyota assessor yesterday commented on that point: the photos he captured were not limited to the underside. TGB wanted interior and bodywork shots to assay likely usage of the vehicle.
His adjudication? The vehicle has had an easy life on the road and the corrosion is inexplicable. Three specific visual barometers to which he drew attention:
- The sub 2mm belly pan underneath the sump is in near perfect condition with no perforation
- The tops of the coils and the shocks at the front look unmarred
- the aluminium running boards have zero discolouration/patination [that is a key marker apparently as to whether it is used in hostile environs]
This Hilux has had a street life. It has lived on tarmac. It has had nothing to do with water sports or the sea/beach. It is parked on my driveway. The only co-factor: I do live in a coastal town in North Devon.
Its a 4x4 pickup supposedly made for off road , there supposed to be made to handle difficult and demanding terrains not doing burnouts on tarmac wi 4 furry dice hanging fae the mirror .Hostile Enviroments
.. tell them even the Taliban don’t want Hilux ‘s as there no strong enough tae launch from .. . At least your getting somewhere
The mark of a good company is how they deal with an issue. Jurys out on Toyota till they give you the final outcome.
Im looking to buy a new pickup this year. Fords keep blowing up, and denying warranty claims. Toyotas rot and Idont like Izusus…what are my options
Bavarianbrit
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Possibly but could have 10hiluxs in stead
Well, keep us posted, will be interesting to see what they say.
This is an interesting thread and a welcome departure from the kind of conspiracy crap you normally post!
Our lives have many facets. The threads on this forum span much of our life experience. Long may that be so. There are so few forums where anyone can speak as freely.
You clearly do not read the other posts. I post data. Not theories. I appreciate that reading turgid government legislation, or NIH white papers/ peer-reviewed scientific papers, or WHO policy documents is not to everyone's taste. But it is not conspiracy chatter: it is data. Decide for yourself what it means.
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Yeah. Right.
You post your opinion, with whatever "data" you've dredged up from your conspiracy echo chambers that support your opinion. There are plenty of places you can go and argue for your daily Ivermectin.
Oh, btw, no one reads it. You're totally wasting your time.
Toyotas - that's relevant and interesting.
Bavarianbrit
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Back on about Rust, I think Alec Baldwin is guilty.
Ive just accidentally injected myself with Ivermectin, yesterday afternoon. So this is quite topical, it ferking hurt as the needle went into the joint of my finger. So Im now good for worms, mites and conspiracy theories.
Yeah. Right.
You post your opinion, with whatever "data" you've dredged up from your conspiracy echo chambers that support your opinion. There are plenty of places you can go and argue for your daily Ivermectin.
Oh, btw, no one reads it. You're totally wasting your time.
Toyotas - that's relevant and interesting.
I best now take my trusty or is that rusty Landrover off to the pub!
Wow that's baad, every winter I underclean/ reproof my sportage as they surface rust easily.
But touch wood 11 years old and nowhere near that level, shocking response from Toyota so far.
Fingers crossed they resolve this issue as Nissan finally did with their rotboxes.
But touch wood 11 years old and nowhere near that level, shocking response from Toyota so far.
Fingers crossed they resolve this issue as Nissan finally did with their rotboxes.
Bavarianbrit
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At the Ryton Chrysler factory and the Triumph factory both in Coventry in the 1970s the bodies were welded up then went out into whatever weather there was to go on to the paint shop, Chrysler on trollies doing a U turn outside and back into the plant on a different line and Triumph they went from one plant onto a truck x10 units to the main plant 2 miles away for painting. Of course some had a fine rust coat before any protection was applied and rusted well. In Toyota SA perhaps some of the chassis are left out in the weather before getting treated as yours looks way too far gone for 45K miles in normal use. Worth investigating further, I would hire an independent adjudicator and run them down hard with his report.
FYI
Go to 13:30 into the video.
FYI
Go to 13:30 into the video.
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Toyota Customer relations department do not care about their customers, based on my experience to date.
Toyota quality control has definitely dropped off in recent times.
My 67 plate Hilux had more issues in its first 3 years, than my previous 09 plate during the 8 years I had it.
(Both bought from new.)
Rust proofing on modern pickups (including Toyota) appears to be non existent.
You might gather some relevant information from this forum but what you really need to be doing is driving to Plymouth or Bristol or wherever the largest in situ number of similar vehicles will be located. Wherever the biggest Toyota dealership is in the SW with a significant number of secondhand vehicles for sale.
Doesn’t need to be exactly the same model all the same year. Anything in the first batch of Gen 8 Hilux will do.
The more photos you post the more I see your vehicle having sat for extended periods of time with something corrosive all over the underside. It’s not just the chassis that has been suffering. We’ve already mentioned the shock absorber.
Other clues are bits like this:
That’s not chassis rust, that is an abrasive, corrosive substance being thrown up against the underside of the tub.
In the pics, it looks like there’s a light grey mud of some kind covering the front suspension strut assembly. Where does that come from?
No idea. There is a granite(?) quarry [Hansons] which sits adjacent an A road here in North Devon. Some grey dust gets dumped on the carriageway and does attach to passing vehicles.
But...I probably pass that way once a month or less. And wash vehicle every second month. The grey dust sloughs off easy enough. Besides, no one has described that spall as corrosive.
More to the point: look at the pics. The vehicle underside is clean. And that is just drive-in car-wash clean. No jetwash. The self-evident underbody cleanliness reflects vehicle usage. Recall that the dealership takes photos every MOT. So they have a record of how the vehicle has been used, year-on-year. The only corrosive agent likely is from winter road gritting. And "lesser" marques have dealt with that better.
So far you have a sample size of precisely one. So it’s a bit early to reach a conclusion, wouldn’t you say?
Considering how much you enjoy putting forward alternative viewpoints that challenge the mainstream, using voluminous tables of data, graphs and YouTube experts, I would’ve thought you would be out there gathering samples that support your case!
Huh? My Hilux has underperformed compared to my Surf, Ford Fiesta, wife's Ford Fiesta, Renault Clio and two Nissan Qashqai's.
I am not [yet] comparing my Hilux to any other Hilux. I am comparing it to other vehicles my family have owned and driven on the same roads for longer. Not scientific. Not definitive. But a kind of benchmark for sure.
The most damning of those comparisons must be the Surf. That vehicle was just shy of its 20th birthday when I sold it in 2016. I serviced that vehicle and knew it well. Its chassis was near rust-free.
