Illuminated reticle

CharlieL

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Hi,

My love of stalking of comes from a young age stalking with my father- something I now treasure and appreciate more each time in the knowledge it will not last for ever.

Sadly one of those first memories is intwined with meeting prejudice in every day life. I remember vividly show and tell at the age of 8 at school was a photo of me and my father with our first roe buck together (still on the wall at home and probably a gold medal, not that it was ever relevant), but my teacher at the time blocked me sharing that memory as perceived probably as too graphic - thinking back, I was always ‘unwell’ when having a days hunting on horseback when hunting home country on a Thursday, so despite being c. 1991 the writing was on the wall in that regard.

last night I got to share one of those treasured evening stalking with the old man. As he approaches 80 they will not last forever.

A roe buck came charging in just as we had given up upon last light, from the direction we spotted one too far away to stalk c. 500m away previously. A quickly bark and it was culled at 15metres.

whilst unsighted to the final shot, as always we recollected the final moments. Having questioned the light, I put my rifle up on the sticks and invited dad to look through my scope - A ZEISS V4 3-12-56 with an illuminated reticle. In 60+ yrs of stalking he hadn’t seen an IR before and was bowled over by the clarity and with ageing eyes pick up the point of aim.

Now for the part, where I will no doubt get challenged and the purpose of the prelude.

The old chap recognises his aging years and eyes, and now struggles to gain focus and eye relief quickly, which has resulted in at least 1/2 dozen no pulls (between me and my brother) as he will never (and has taught us similarly) to never pull the trigger unless in complete control of the shot.

I would like to find him a good, second (or third) hand scope with an illuminated reticle / red dot. His 10yr old S&B will be thrown for good measure -

Objective lens 50\56 to go on an ageing but ever accurate .243

A similar ZEISS ideal but not fussy, and will pay what ever is required to extend our stalking trips.

Pls pm with details and happy to take any successful respondents out as a thank you with the old chap, in an equivalent old Land Rover - but be warned, don’t slam the door !
 
This chap is selling a S&B Zenith with the flash dot reticle, these are very good;

 
Hi,

My love of stalking of comes from a young age stalking with my father- something I now treasure and appreciate more each time in the knowledge it will not last for ever.

Sadly one of those first memories is intwined with meeting prejudice in every day life. I remember vividly show and tell at the age of 8 at school was a photo of me and my father with our first roe buck together (still on the wall at home and probably a gold medal, not that it was ever relevant), but my teacher at the time blocked me sharing that memory as perceived probably as too graphic - thinking back, I was always ‘unwell’ when having a days hunting on horseback when hunting home country on a Thursday, so despite being c. 1991 the writing was on the wall in that regard.

last night I got to share one of those treasured evening stalking with the old man. As he approaches 80 they will not last forever.

A roe buck came charging in just as we had given up upon last light, from the direction we spotted one too far away to stalk c. 500m away previously. A quickly bark and it was culled at 15metres.

whilst unsighted to the final shot, as always we recollected the final moments. Having questioned the light, I put my rifle up on the sticks and invited dad to look through my scope - A ZEISS V4 3-12-56 with an illuminated reticle. In 60+ yrs of stalking he hadn’t seen an IR before and was bowled over by the clarity and with ageing eyes pick up the point of aim.

Now for the part, where I will no doubt get challenged and the purpose of the prelude.

The old chap recognises his aging years and eyes, and now struggles to gain focus and eye relief quickly, which has resulted in at least 1/2 dozen no pulls (between me and my brother) as he will never (and has taught us similarly) to never pull the trigger unless in complete control of the shot.

I would like to find him a good, second (or third) hand scope with an illuminated reticle / red dot. His 10yr old S&B will be thrown for good measure -

Objective lens 50\56 to go on an ageing but ever accurate .243

A similar ZEISS ideal but not fussy, and will pay what ever is required to extend our stalking trips.

Pls pm with details and happy to take any successful respondents out as a thank you with the old chap, in an equivalent old Land Rover - but be warned, don’t slam the door !
My advice is to avoid a fully illuminated reticle and go for one with just a tiny centre cross or dot that lights up.
 
And don't go above a 4x zoom ratio (e.g. 3-12 or 2.5-10). The eye box on the higher zoom ratio scopes is more finicky and much less forgiving. This seems to be very relevant from what you wrote.
 
Yes I completely agree with the above
Stay away from a fully illuminated reticle and go for simple red dot
Meopta 7x56 RD or ZEISS Duralyt are good
 
A Delta titanium would be perfect. Small Central illuminated dot huge FOV on low mag non fussy eye relief. Bomb proof and optics close to the best you can get.
D
 
Being the OP already has a ZEISS with illuminated reticle he knows what he wants or similar, He just has to find one at the right money.
Good luck with your search.
 
Hi,

My love of stalking of comes from a young age stalking with my father- something I now treasure and appreciate more each time in the knowledge it will not last for ever.

Sadly one of those first memories is intwined with meeting prejudice in every day life. I remember vividly show and tell at the age of 8 at school was a photo of me and my father with our first roe buck together (still on the wall at home and probably a gold medal, not that it was ever relevant), but my teacher at the time blocked me sharing that memory as perceived probably as too graphic - thinking back, I was always ‘unwell’ when having a days hunting on horseback when hunting home country on a Thursday, so despite being c. 1991 the writing was on the wall in that regard.

last night I got to share one of those treasured evening stalking with the old man. As he approaches 80 they will not last forever.

A roe buck came charging in just as we had given up upon last light, from the direction we spotted one too far away to stalk c. 500m away previously. A quickly bark and it was culled at 15metres.

whilst unsighted to the final shot, as always we recollected the final moments. Having questioned the light, I put my rifle up on the sticks and invited dad to look through my scope - A ZEISS V4 3-12-56 with an illuminated reticle. In 60+ yrs of stalking he hadn’t seen an IR before and was bowled over by the clarity and with ageing eyes pick up the point of aim.

Now for the part, where I will no doubt get challenged and the purpose of the prelude.

The old chap recognises his aging years and eyes, and now struggles to gain focus and eye relief quickly, which has resulted in at least 1/2 dozen no pulls (between me and my brother) as he will never (and has taught us similarly) to never pull the trigger unless in complete control of the shot.

I would like to find him a good, second (or third) hand scope with an illuminated reticle / red dot. His 10yr old S&B will be thrown for good measure -

Objective lens 50\56 to go on an ageing but ever accurate .243

A similar ZEISS ideal but not fussy, and will pay what ever is required to extend our stalking trips.

Pls pm with details and happy to take any successful respondents out as a thank you with the old chap, in an equivalent old Land Rover - but be warned, don’t slam the door !
This is the cheapest V4 3-12x56 I can find for you.


New ones are just under £1k at the moment.

Not my sale I might add
 
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This would also be a good option


Better optically as well than ZEISS V4’s

No association with either sale I might add
 
There is no point in splashing out on a Zeiss. I have a Diavari and to my 64 year old there is no discernable difference between the two except £1000!
Delta sits on my 243 stalking rifle and Zeiss is on .204.
D
 
Very interested in this thread I am in process of getting my old 308 re barrelled that has a Ziess Victory HT on it 50mm I have thought about going to 56 mm to future proof as I am in 60 s now
The illumination is great I find - great he is still getting out Well done
 
Very interested in this thread I am in process of getting my old 308 re barrelled that has a Ziess Victory HT on it 50mm I have thought about going to 56 mm to future proof as I am in 60 s now
The illumination is great I find - great he is still getting out Well done
Future proofing? The older you become the smaller your max. pupil becomes. Even at 50 most people won't be able to make use of the larger exit pupil of a 56mm scope vs. 50mm. Stay with what you've got. It won't get any better.
 
Future proofing? The older you become the smaller your max. pupil becomes. Even at 50 most people won't be able to make use of the larger exit pupil of a 56mm scope vs. 50mm. Stay with what you've got. It won't get any better.
To be honest it’s good now. I just don’t like swapping and changing - but thought it may be worth adding objective and mag - but that saved me some cash so even better ha
 
There is no point in splashing out on a Zeiss. I have a Diavari and to my 64 year old there is no discernable difference between the two except £1000!
Delta sits on my 243 stalking rifle and Zeiss is on .204.
D
Which Diavari and which Delta?
Besides, the V4 is hardly a Zeiss. Bought in Asia, probably even from the same factory that also makes Delta scopes? and then labled by Zeiss.
 
To be honest it’s good now. I just don’t like swapping and changing - but thought it may be worth adding objective and mag - but that saved me some cash so even better ha
Ha, ha. If it's for the magnification go ahead. But it won't help you with light gathering.
 
Very interested in this thread I am in process of getting my old 308 re barrelled that has a Ziess Victory HT on it 50mm I have thought about going to 56 mm to future proof as I am in 60 s now
The illumination is great I find - great he is still getting out Well done
If you have a Victory HT 2.5-10x50 keep it. The Victory HT’s are pretty much as good as it gets for light gathering. You won’t get allot better than you already have. And as someone else has already said the 6mm increase will be negligible for you I am afraid.
 
Thanks for the replies gents. A red dot is all he needs and I now what IR means now! For the record, mine is aa 3 yr old v4 so might be Asian glass but has been reliable and discernible difference/ closest to a Swaov on the same power in low light levels I want to shoot in.

Out to 150 yards - as some of you have said no mag is necessary for heart or neck shots - keep it simple and enjoy the moment.
 
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