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[Tim.243]

Comments regarding 'heavy barrel', the rifle just needs to be balanced.

Use a quality stock which is slightly butt-heavy (stock pack/cheek riser helps) and a lightweight moderator.

T8 moderator is one of the worst possible choices if you want a good rifle, as it is heavy and will rust (heaven-or a blowtorch, help you if it were to be left on overnight after shooting! ).

Newer designs are smaller, lighter and more efficient.

Thing is if you insist in stalking with the same amount of kit as a carp fisherman on a week in a swim then you might want a light mod, however a dialled in rifle with a T8 on the front won't jump around like some smarties tube threaded on the rifle.

People crave for light kit then go and shoot a deer 50-100kg a half mile from the truck where is the 8oz saved going to help?

 

[Bowland blades]

Exactly how many deer do you want to kill all one after the other ? The thicker your barrel the more heft ( especially when you sping a reasonable moderator off the end ) A sporter will with 308 type capacity cartridges not wander at all for three shots in short succession reality with deer that heard ie Reds etc in culling situations the kill zone will make a hot barrel wander a little with a std stalking contour but you wont be going for small kill-zones at that stage and might not even be using your index finger on the trigger so heat -up wont be an issue. Your choice of course but varmint barrels and moderators are fine for static tactics and prone / seated shooting the rest of the time though ...?
I sold mine within weeks of packing in competitive shooting , never regretted it in around a decade and a half i havent once thought of adding another heavy barrel rifle but i have added a couple of even lighter ones

 

[Phil fox man]

the one on the 243 which hadn't had as many rounds rotted,while the one on the 22/250 was ok.
when I rebareled the 22/250 I used the old t8 off it on my 243 after I ran a 6.5 mm drill through it.its been used on it about 8 years.
phil.

 

[Tim.243]

the one on the 243 which hadn't had as many rounds rotted,while the one on the 22/250 was ok.
when I rebareled the 22/250 I used the old t8 off it on my 243 after I ran a 6.5 mm drill through it.its been used on it about 8 years.
phil.

I silver soldered 3 pin holes in one I had for years...but the UNI read add loving would get a new one
One member said you can't do that..I posted the H&H vid of them joining a pair of barrels together with braze lol

 

[Phil fox man]

I silver soldered 3 pin holes in one I had for years...but the UNI read add loving would get a new one

yes Tim I was going to brass it up but I chose an18×1 new mod for my 22/250.
phil

 

[User00040]

Thing is if you insist in stalking with the same amount of kit as a carp fisherman on a week in a swim then you might want a light mod, however a dialled in rifle with a T8 on the front won't jump around like some smarties tube threaded on the rifle.

If you are getting muzzle jump/flip then there is something not right with the rifle stock and/or shooter.

People crave for light kit then go and shoot a deer 50-100kg a half mile from the truck where is the 8oz saved going to help?

No issue if it's your backyard (Essex).

But there are a pair of Munro behind my house.

Stalk up, drag down.

Gravity helps

 

[Tim.243]

If you are getting muzzle jump/flip then there is something not right with the rifle stock and/or shooter.





No issue if it's your backyard (Essex).

But there are a pair of Munro behind my house.

Stalk up, drag down.

Gravity helps

You read to many adverts and YouTube vids... As you read politics at Uni you get a pass for a good ribbing.
You get muzzle flip on a shot gun lol

If i was you I would ask for your money back from the gamekeeping course..

 

[User00040]

If i was you I would ask for your money back from the gamekeeping course..

Good idea, there was no module on shooting deer with a thermal/digital scope (your specialty?)...

 

[Tim.243]

Good idea, there was no module on shooting deer with a thermal/digital scope (your specialty?)...

No mine is making mounts from a billet for digital scopes
Someone asked me where the knob came from...a chap further up country came to mind.

 

[Acm]

If you’re after a heavy mod, for rifle balance or longevity, buy a t12. You’ll never where it out and should you be low on bullets it makes a handy priest.

 

[JockStalk]

Good evening gents,

So I've been over to see Mr Mike Norris today at Brock&Norris and have now come away with an itch I feel I need to scratch..
Lots of good conversations held and plenty of options laid out on the table to consider.
So I want to share with you guys what I'm considering and see what your thoughts are and what you might have built or change with this

Base the build on a tikka action, with an 18inch varmint barrel, heavily flutted down. Bedded in a grs berserk or even possibly their new light weight laminated hunter. Chambered in 308.

I'm looking for a light weight stalking rifle that will spend the majority of its working life in woodland at close range targets

Look forward to your comments on the proposal or even Mr Norris and his work,

Thanks all

Mikes work is very good.
Which tikka action?
Would recommend PSE stocks 100%. Suggest looking beyond the grs range of stocks.
Short and pointy - forget varmint & heavy fluting, remember you’ve to lug it through woodland.
Have you thought of just buying an off the shelf T3?

 

[Bowland blades]

Mikes work is very good.
Which tikka action?
Would recommend PSE stocks 100%. Suggest looking beyond the grs range of stocks.
Short and pointy - forget varmint & heavy fluting, remember you’ve to lug it through woodland.
Have you thought of just buying an off the shelf T3?

It is very good and fast he did some alterations for me not long back ( just a chop and re-thread tbf) but it was fast and better than i have had before regards service and quality , one without the other doesn't really work out great in my direct experience .

 

[MAXLISTER1987]

Mikes work is very good.
Which tikka action?
Would recommend PSE stocks 100%. Suggest looking beyond the grs range of stocks.
Short and pointy - forget varmint & heavy fluting, remember you’ve to lug it through woodland.
Have you thought of just buying an off the shelf T3?

I have thought about that yes..

 

[Bowland blades]

I have thought about that yes..

retail prices are really up on new rifles while second hand prices are really low a good shooting S/H rifle might have done very little on my latest i took a bit of a punt and bought another Sako 75 ( i dont think there has been a better stalking rifle made personally ) £500 from trade and its a real shooter . I had plans from the get go to re-barrel but it shoots 50 grain copper / and lead just great in 1-12 ( 223) not as fast to clean as my custom barrelled stuff but the plan has always to go 1-8 Barreling around £700 on my last will likely pillar bed it myself so £1200 ( which is well under a new tikka) . Sorry to say but most new rifles are over priced and although there are more gimics the Tikka one action fits all is not going to be on my list unless i want something that actually shoots a 30-06 class with their one size fits all action .

 

[old keeper]

I've known Mike for a long time and I own a 204 built on an H-S Precision action by him. The rifle and everything else I had done by him has been first class. For the uninitiated Mike does tell it as it is which seems to bother some people, but you have to realize he's a Cornishman!

 

[Bowland blades]

I've known Mike for a long time and I own a 204 built on an H-S Precision action by him. The rifle and everything else I had done by him has been first class. For the uninitiated Mike does tell it as it is which seems to bother some people, but you have to realize he's a Cornishman!

Yep its better than trying to BS half the planet though

 

[MAXLISTER1987]

mike did a heavy barrel on my foxing gun, superb job and on time.the weight and stock configuration suits my style of foxing but you would need arms like Garth to free hand it or sticks made of scaff poles.
my 243 is a shorter barrelled zastava and you can carry it all day.
as said by others weight an point ability is your goal.
personally I would steer clear of a heavy barrel,fluted or not.
as for the stock just go to Danny at Staffordshire stocks and try one out.
phil

do you happen to have any further details for Danny out of interest

 

[Phil fox man]

check his web site, Staffordshire custom stocks.he is not far from mike's.
I just went down and tried a blank out and he inlet it for my action.

 

[25 Sharps]

Had a Grs Stock on my .222 and honestly think you’ll be disappointed, I sold it and went back to the factory. Lovely and comfortable for bench and prone, but an absolute pig to carry and not the best for shooting off sticks.

This is exactly what I found, great for the range, crap for the field.

 

[Wmjas]

I’d echo the same thoughts about GRS stocks, heavy but comfortable for prone shooting.

You could also go as short as 16 inch barrel and save a few more grams especially if you reload and can squeeze a bit more speed out of the .308. It’s a great round for short barrels and if you select a faster twist than standard your possibilities increase again.

Sounds like you need to work out what you want to prioritise, weight/accuracy/long range potential etc. before going ahead. As others have said, have a good look at how and where you shoot most of your animals and build a gun that excels at that rather than one that can shoot 1000yards consistently but is too heavy to be comfortable offhand at 100 for example.