Truck bed winch solution anyone

[Darkwoodecho]

Has anyone fitted a removable or semi permanent winch system in the load bed of their truck?
The last couple of stags have been 130kg+ and even with a ramp/drag tray and two of us it's been a grunt, I'm looking for ideas that do not require drilling into the metal of the load bed, the only fixing points are the corner tie downs, Which don't look like they would take much strain. I'm thinking a winch that will work off the power socket in the cab and be semi permanent or removable and ideally interchangeable between my Hilux (twin cab) and my mates (same model) I will need to be able to remove it during the summer months. Or am I asking too much! We have a petrol capstan winch for extraction.
I've done the search and nothing seems to be coming up.
Thanks'

 

[jthyttin]

You need an attachment point somewhere on the truck if you want to drag the carcass on the bed. Find out how the optional roll bars or bed covers are attached, and fabricate your own bar using the same attachment locations.

In a pinch I think you could use the rear seat belt attachment points, or just open the rear doors and run a tow strap through the cabin. Of course need to check that door seals etc. do not get damaged.

You'd be using the capstan and pulley for actual winching.

Third option would be to elevate the rear part of the ramp to get it horizontal, and then push the drag tray to the bed. I've used modified ride on lawn mower lift for that, but with smaller carcasses (whitetail).

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[Tim.243]

Has anyone fitted a removable or semi permanent winch system in the load bed of their truck?
The last couple of stags have been 130kg+ and even with a ramp/drag tray and two of us it's been a grunt, I'm looking for ideas that do not require drilling into the metal of the load bed, the only fixing points are the corner tie downs, Which don't look like they would take much strain. I'm thinking a winch that will work off the power socket in the cab and be semi permanent or removable and ideally interchangeable between my Hilux (twin cab) and my mates (same model) I will need to be able to remove it during the summer months. Or am I asking too much! We have a petrol capstan winch for extraction.
I've done the search and nothing seems to be coming up.
Thanks'

50x50x6mm box bolted using the 4 bolts at the front of the tub, with spacers so the bolts have full contact, Paul is away and will finish the power when he is back.

 

[Tim.243]

You need an attachment point somewhere on the truck if you want to drag the carcass on the bed. Find out how the optional roll bars or bed covers are attached, and fabricate your own bar using the same attachment locations.

In a pinch I think you could use the rear seat belt attachment points, or just open the rear doors and run a tow strap through the cabin. Of course need to check that door seals etc. do not get damaged.

You'd be using the capstan and pulley for actual winching.

Third option would be to elevate the rear part of the ramp to get it horizontal, and then push the drag tray to the bed. I've used modified ride on lawn mower lift for that, but with smaller carcasses (whitetail).

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SwitZer Ride On Lawn Mower Lifter 400kg Lifting Device Ramp Garden Tractor Jack. SwitZer Ride On Lawn Mower Lift 400kg Lifting Device Ramp Garden Tractor Jack Lifter. Durable steel construction with a secure stand.

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Are you using that what you have recommended ?

 

[deerstalker.308]

This frame uses the tie down threads, the fact it is braced front and rear negates any concern about their strength, it’s happily winched 190kg stags in with ease and has been it 3 different hilux’s I’ve owned.

 

[Mickeydredd]

Mobile winch

I am currently looking for a winch that can be clipped in and not bolted in the back of my truck. I am wanting somthing cheap and mobile that can just be clipped onto the vehicle battery for power. It will be many used to dag Fallow up and on to the draw unit in the back of my truck. Any help or...

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[75]

I think you'll struggle off the power socket in the cab - direct the battery will be likely as some of these winches draw a fair bit of current.

 

[nun_hunter]

If you already use a petrol capstan winch you only need a mounting point for a pulley in the load bed and use the capstan winch off that and an anchor outside the truck.

 

[VSS]

If you already use a petrol capstan winch you only need a mounting point for a pulley in the load bed and use the capstan winch off that and an anchor outside the truck.

Exactly this ^^^
Just attach a bit of wire cable between the two forward tie-down points, with a single sheave block running freely on it. If the cable isn't too tight the block will naturally centre itself. Hook a snatch block onto that, and you're good to go with capstan attached to something (eg, a tree) outside the truck.

 

[jthyttin]

Are you using that what you have recommended ?

I'm not actually sure I recommended anything, but:

- don't have a pick-up so haven't located and used attachment points in truck bed
- I've used front seat belt attachment points on passenger car to provide higher attachment point for pulley
- I know of people who've used B pillars on passenger car and SUV to no ill effect
- I do use similar lift as in Ebay add I linked, but I'm not located in UK so I linked something I found in UK

Regarding the lawn mower lift, if you look at the picture you just need to cut off the vertical bars that prevent the mower from sliding off the lift. Then put the lift in flat position (i.e. not cranked up), place drag tray on lift, elevate the end of the lift you cut the vertical bars to the bumper, fix it if needed, crank the other end so that tray is horizontal.

OP was specifically asking for "no drilling" solution.

 

[devon deer stalker]

I have a Hilux, I have installed a wire between the rear tie down points, clip on my capstan winch and use a bit of ply board as a ramp, length of board the maximum I can fit on bottom of the bed, 12mm thick, never had a problem.

 

[big ears]

I have a Hilux, I have installed a wire between the rear tie down points, clip on my capstan winch and use a bit of ply board as a ramp, length of board the maximum I can fit on bottom of the bed, 12mm thick, never had a problem.

Seen this in action and it does really work

 

[Tim.243]

I'm not actually sure I recommended anything, but:

- don't have a pick-up so haven't located and used attachment points in truck bed
- I've used front seat belt attachment points on passenger car to provide higher attachment point for pulley
- I know of people who've used B pillars on passenger car and SUV to no ill effect
- I do use similar lift as in Ebay add I linked, but I'm not located in UK so I linked something I found in UK

Regarding the lawn mower lift, if you look at the picture you just need to cut off the vertical bars that prevent the mower from sliding off the lift. Then put the lift in flat position (i.e. not cranked up), place drag tray on lift, elevate the end of the lift you cut the vertical bars to the bumper, fix it if needed, crank the other end so that tray is horizontal.

OP was specifically asking for "no drilling" solution.

So the "No Drilling" solution has turned into a

you just need to cut off the vertical bars

My "no drill" solution fits together in under 30 seconds
No lawn mowers we damaged in the making of this reply

 

[Danny Fireblade]

Have a look at a second hand wheelchair winch. It’s what they use to winch wheelchairs into the backs of vehicles. They are usually rated well and draw little too.
Usually find some on eBay. I picked on up for less than £30.

 

[JH83]

I say just get the drill out! In my case to the wheel hubs only, easy enough job, not exactly devastating to the vehicle!

 

[308tikka]

This frame uses the tie down threads, the fact it is braced front and rear negates any concern about their strength, it’s happily winched 190kg stags in with ease and has been it 3 different hilux’s I’ve owned.

I had a similar setup in a double cab.

You need the lengthways support strut unless you have a really solid bulkhead to bolt against. Ive seen a solid plank in a defender been used as support.

The FC have a setup… it works. Copy what works and dont reinvent the wheel…..

 

[deerstalker.308]

I had a similar setup in a double cab.

You need the lengthways support strut unless you have a really solid bulkhead to bolt against. Ive seen a solid plank in a defender been used as support.

The FC have a setup… it works. Copy what works and dont reinvent the wheel…..

Mine was made by a FC welder who’s made a few, I asked for slightly different spec though as I wanted it to be relocatable between vehicles (within reason).

 

[Darkwoodecho]

Excellent Gent's, as always some innovative ideas and good advice, I'm leaning towards some sort of combo between Tim.243's bracing frame and Devon Deer Stalkers Capstan solution, we've got the winch and ground anchor so we might as well use it!
Thanks' all

 

[sauer]

i was thinking of a bracing frame out of box section ( as shown above ) but instead of bolting, using box section with corresponding holes & pins with R-pins to secure (or those circle clip pins that really nip yer fingers ) and having it modular but not requiring any tools to put in ... that way only have it in vehicle when needed it ...power would be cigarette plug with correct amp / fuse in it and either run with engine going or have a leisure battery with suitable connections back to a cigarette adapter ..or anderson powerpoles be better..

we use lot of modular frames at work that are pinned and use R-pins to stop pins coming out and its quick and easy

Paul

 

[Norfolk Horn]

So the "No Drilling" solution has turned into a

My "no drill" solution fits together in under 30 seconds
No lawn mowers we damaged in the making of this reply
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