BASC deer stalkers register - this is not a slight to those without DSC2

[levigsp]

The only people who appear to be concerned are those who don't have the required qualifications to join the list. That's not the problem of BASC or DMQ.
The insurance thing has been done to death with people claiming to be happy with their £2.99 insurance packages and yet now they want BASC membership benefits for a £2.99 price tag. Sorry chaps but the world doesn't work like that!

Not true I have the relevant, but i will not join, nor will i have anything to do with the basc. I have been hunting in the uk for well over 60 years. I have stalked deer most of my life. But one thing sticks in my craw, the fact that BASC say {most people] why is this? simple really, it because Basc advised as such. fact is plain for everyone to see, this is another pocket filling exercise by the basc. incidentally I can HONESTLY state that in all my year hunting, shooting and fishing, the basc have done absolutely nothing for me or my fellow hunters except sell us down the line.

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

Apologies if this has been already been covered in another thread.

Is this worth me signing up to, I do not have DSC2, I have DSC1 and the LANTRA Wild Game Cert?

The reason I ask is because the sign up says -

"The register is designed primarily for those who have achieved their DSC2 as this is the minimum qualification that most landowners require."

What's making me think I can sign up is that is says 'primarily' and not exclusively.

Also, 'most landowners require', so I could sign up with the chance a landowner may be happy to give me an opportunity on a smaller piece of land near me that doesn't require a full time amount of management?

Thanks.

The online application form lists lots of qualification options to tick and asks about experience so feel free to complete it. The DSC2 ref is about managing expectations I think - so yes, you never know, its worth a go. The brief on the register webpage states:

"BASC will hold the details of any member wishing to apply, including their location and qualification levels. When opportunities arise, we will contact all members on the register in the areas surrounding the property and put them in contact with the relevant parties. There is no cost to join the register. The register is designed primarily for those who have achieved their DSC2 as this is the minimum qualification that most landowners require. The initiative is designed to open up more deer management opportunities to BASC members, and reinforce the fact that competent volunteer deer stalkers are a vital tool when it comes to controlling the UK’s deer populations."

The online application form is at the bottom of the following webpage:

Register of competent deer stalkers

The BASC register of competent deer stalkers is an initiative which seeks to open up deer management opportunities for BASC members.

basc.org.uk

 

[Morkai]

The online application form lists lots of qualification options to tick and asks about experience so feel free to complete it. The DSC2 ref is about managing expectations I think - so yes, you never know, its worth a go. The brief on the register webpage states:

"BASC will hold the details of any member wishing to apply, including their location and qualification levels. When opportunities arise, we will contact all members on the register in the areas surrounding the property and put them in contact with the relevant parties. There is no cost to join the register. The register is designed primarily for those who have achieved their DSC2 as this is the minimum qualification that most landowners require. The initiative is designed to open up more deer management opportunities to BASC members, and reinforce the fact that competent volunteer deer stalkers are a vital tool when it comes to controlling the UK’s deer populations."

The online application form is at the bottom of the following webpage:

Register of competent deer stalkers

The BASC register of competent deer stalkers is an initiative which seeks to open up deer management opportunities for BASC members.

basc.org.uk

Thank you, Conor.

 

[User00053]

Not true I have the relevant, but i will not join, nor will i have anything to do with the basc. I have been hunting in the uk for well over 60 years. I have stalked deer most of my life. But one thing sticks in my craw, the fact that BASC say {most people] why is this? simple really, it because Basc advised as such. fact is plain for everyone to see, this is another pocket filling exercise by the basc. incidentally I can HONESTLY state that in all my year hunting, shooting and fishing, the basc have done absolutely nothing for me or my fellow hunters except sell us down the line.

Was member of wagbi when at school then it morphed into BASC and I lost interest due to work and supported others, liked the wagbi badge though.

 

[Cris]

I don’t think panties need twisting, Conor mentioned 12 landowners asking for stalkers in a year, so BASC members get to be on a recommendation list, ………… I am sure other organisations will do the same for their members if it’s successful

Yep so little impact in real terms. One a month spread around the country, but still if your in it as they say and taken the trouble to certify yourself……

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

Its all about the money money money - all about the money money money

I think that is a rather unfair comment. The BASC deer stalkers register is free to join.

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

Not true I have the relevant, but i will not join, nor will i have anything to do with the basc. I have been hunting in the uk for well over 60 years. I have stalked deer most of my life. But one thing sticks in my craw, the fact that BASC say {most people] why is this? simple really, it because Basc advised as such. fact is plain for everyone to see, this is another pocket filling exercise by the basc. incidentally I can HONESTLY state that in all my year hunting, shooting and fishing, the basc have done absolutely nothing for me or my fellow hunters except sell us down the line.

I appreciate the fact that if you are not a member of BASC you may not see updates on the successes it achieves that you benefit from. For example BASC recently played a key role in stopping a ban on the use of lead airgun pellets for live quarry and target shooting. That is perhaps a benefit to you and 1-2 million others? Would you agree?

 

[Deermanagement]

dropped off some at the gamedealers this morning and was wondering if some of the roe in their chiller was put there buy and DSC2 guys? I think the sternum was opened up with a chainsaw or an XL bully

 

[baguio]

Whatever . If you think people have always had qualifications to go hunting
People have been hunting a very long time with only learned experiences to make them good at it.
No paper required.

No one said that people have always been qualified. I don't know if it's passed you by but deer numbers are rocketing in this country and it's not because the deer stalkers in this country are making a good go of it. ! I have also seen plenty of shocking grallochs.
People need to stop blowing smoke up each other's backsides and realise that we need to get better. Training helps with that.

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

I don’t think panties need twisting, Conor mentioned 12 landowners asking for stalkers in a year, so BASC members get to be on a recommendation list, ………… I am sure other organisations will do the same for their members if it’s successful

Yes, it is early days and hopefully helps some landowners and recreational stalkers. I think it has been mentioned earlier that other organisations such as the NGO also do something similar, which is great, and I don't recall any concerns or negative comments on that on here, unless I missed it.

 

[Rake Aboot]

No one said that people have always been qualified. I don't know if it's passed you by but deer numbers are rocketing in this country and it's not because the deer stalkers in this country are making a good go of it. ! I have also seen plenty of shocking grallochs.
People need to stop blowing smoke up each other's backsides and realise that we need to get better. Training helps with that.

Why are Roe numbers increasing in the central belt ?

Is it because there aren’t enough shooters with DSC 2 to go out and shoot them ?

Or is it greed because people want lots of money to allow folk to shoot deer cause they view them as a cash crop. Or simply don’t allow shooting at all ?

 

[Rake Aboot]

Have they? Says who?

No one said that people have always been qualified.

Confused ?

 

[User00053]

For certain a high percentage of ngo members are well placed to recommend individuals or select the worthies to become involved in assisting with culls with a no nonsense approach and get the numbers if so directed when or if push comes to shove depending on circumstances and remuneration for a job of work and to be treated as such. Edit. Still plenty out there paying for their pleasure which is a different horse and course.

 

[baguio]

Why are Roe numbers increasing in the central belt ?

Is it because there aren’t enough shooters with DSC 2 to go out and shoot them ?

Or is it greed because people want lots of money to allow folk to shoot deer cause they view them as a cash crop. Or simply don’t allow shooting at all ?

It's because people aren't shooting enough deer. Just read this forum and see how many posters tell a story of going out, shooting one deer and going home for tea and medals. Even when they get into herds of fallow they shoot one.
These posts are always followed by a load of back slapping by the masses on here. Now you ask yourself why roe numbers are increasing in the central belt (It's not just the central belt though).

 

[User00053]

Funny one to my mind as some folks who own land want rid for a variety of reasons others love to see them ( roe ) and preserve them and will not have them shot and others view as a cash crop to be managed as such.
With the exception of the little fellows who like the jungle begs the question why other species are now a perceived problem cannot be rocket science. Solutions are simple on paper and the best of luck but some carcasses won’t be pretty where blotter-ups needed.
Sounds like a industrial problem in southern counties according to the official blurb

 

[Rake Aboot]

Hahaha.
See, what’s funny is you think this forum is all deer stalkers !

 

[User00053]

And deer stalker extraordinaire once upon a star

 

[jall55]

I think that is a rather unfair comment. The BASC deer stalkers register is free to join.

I didnt realise DSC 1 and DSC 2 were free

 

[baguio]

I didnt realise DSC 1 and DSC 2 were free

Neither is a computer or internet to enable you to register, or an FAC, or Rifle or bullets or vehicle to get to the ground they offer you........Honestly. Cry me a river!

 

[finnbear270]

One shot Deer is one Deer less.
Argue with that.