Donating venison - rules

[Essexsussex]

Hi all

I have “trained hunter”, and want to donate a carcass to the rugby club for a fund raiser, to be cut and go on the bbq.

The rugby club has whatever certification required to run a kitchen.

Is there a bit in the middle I’m missing to do this? If the rugby club butcher it, is that fine? Or is there another type of certification required.

Mine either go in my freezer or go whole so I haven’t looked into this part other than seeing threads along these lines on here.

Thanks
ES

 

[Essexsussex]

I’ve answered my own question by using the FSA guidance.

Seems as I’m supplying locally (within 30 miles), I’m the producer, and it’s a small quantity then I can supply to a local restaurant etc without any further certification under an exemption.

No one take this as advice, do your own research, the link below is the source.

Primary producers of wild game: requirements and exemptions

The food hygiene regulations regard hunting of wild game for human consumption as a primary production activity.

www.food.gov.uk

 

[slider]

I’ve answered my own question by using the FSA guidance.

Seems as I’m supplying locally (within 30 miles), I’m the producer, and it’s a small quantity then I can supply to a local restaurant etc without any further certification under an exemption.

No one take this as advice, do your own research, the link below is the source.

Primary producers of wild game: requirements and exemptions

The food hygiene regulations regard hunting of wild game for human consumption as a primary production activity.

www.food.gov.uk

Yes, but you need to register with your local authority as a small producer.

 

[Essexsussex]

Seemingly not according to the table in the guide - but I’ll send them an email to check.

 

[Stalker62]

Yes, but you need to register with your local authority as a small producer.

Not sure that is correct.

Direct supply by the producer of wild game to the final consumer and/or to local retailers who directly supply to the final consumer

Supply must be, by the producer, of small quantities of hunted wild game (primary product) Supply must be direct to the final consumer or to a local establishment who directly supply to the final consumer. (for example, butchers, restaurants) Supply from the producer to local retail establishments (who directly supply to the final consumer) can be no further than your own LA, a neighbouring LA or 50 km/30 miles from the boundary of your LA.

Exempt from the scope of Food Hygiene Regulations (852/2004 and 853/2004). Your LA is the Competent Authority.

Not required but encouraged.

Registration as a food business is not required but you are encouraged to contact your LA to ensure you can make use of this exemption

 

[Essexsussex]

Yes, but you need to register with your local authority as a small producer.

Thanks for taking the time to respond

 

[Essexsussex]

Not sure that is correct.

Direct supply by the producer of wild game to the final consumer and/or to local retailers who directly supply to the final consumer

Supply must be, by the producer, of small quantities of hunted wild game (primary product) Supply must be direct to the final consumer or to a local establishment who directly supply to the final consumer. (for example, butchers, restaurants) Supply from the producer to local retail establishments (who directly supply to the final consumer) can be no further than your own LA, a neighbouring LA or 50 km/30 miles from the boundary of your LA.

Exempt from the scope of Food Hygiene Regulations (852/2004 and 853/2004). Your LA is the Competent Authority.

Not required but encouraged.

Registration as a food business is not required but you are encouraged to contact your LA to ensure you can make use of this exemption

My reading too

If I have to register as anything the under 10s and u11 parents will be eating sausages from Tesco or going hungry!

Will be washed down with my donated cider though so it’s not all bad

 

[Bowland blades]

There is no contract in law involved in purely gifting i do believe ? once payment is made then things get different .

 

[Essexsussex]

The eaters will be paying so I don’t want to stitch up the club.

The guidance from fsa seems fine anyway whether selling or not.

 

[Stalker62]

once payment is made then things get different .

Payment has nothing to do with it.

 

[David Barker]

I am sure the rules differ in England than in Scotland. This is an area the Scottish government are working on so we can get away from the large Game dealer strangle hold.

 

[Mike L]

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[VSS]

Seemingly not according to the table in the guide - but I’ll send them an email to check.

If the carcass is being donated in-skin, then the exemption probably applies. If however, you'll be skinning it, then you'll need to be registered with your local council as a Food Business I believe.
The fact it's being donated, not sold, makes no difference - it's still supply to a third party.

(The difference between skinned and unskinned is that, on the one hand, you're supplying wild game, and on the other hand your supplying wild game meat.
The extract of the rules, posted by @Stalker1962 in post #5 is the bit that refers to wild game, not the bit that refers to wild game meat).

 

[Essexsussex]

This is what I thought but the schedule in the guide seems to contradict the requirement to register as a food business if you are the “producer”. It actually says

“Registration as a food business is not required but you are encouraged to contact your LA to ensure you can make use of this exemption”

If the carcass is being donated in-skin, then the exemption probably applies. If however, you'll be skinning it, then you'll need to be registered with your local council as a Food Business I believe.
The fact it's being donated, not sold, makes no difference - it's still supply to a third party.

 

[Bowland blades]

Payment has nothing to do with it.

Disagree when it regards a legal exchange and liability .

 

[Essexsussex]

Disagree when it regards a legal exchange and liability .

That’s different to the rules imposed by the food standards agency though. I’m not asking about liability (of course perhaps I should be!) but regulation.

 

[VSS]

This is what I thought but the schedule in the guide seems to contradict the requirement to register as a food business if you are the “producer”. It actually says

“Registration as a food business is not required but you are encouraged to contact your LA to ensure you can make use of this exemption”

You're reading the wrong bit.
Scroll on down to the bit about wild game meat, and you'll see that Food business registration is required.

 

[Bowland blades]

That’s different to the rules imposed by the food standards agency though. I’m not asking about liability (of course perhaps I should be!) but regulation.

Of sale ! Not of gifting

 

[VSS]

Of sale ! Not of gifting

Doesn't matter of it's sale, gift or barter. It's still supply to a third party and the relevant rules apply.

 

[Essexsussex]

You are absolutely right - I missed the meat bit. Handy if they capitalised words that are defined. The rugby club is a food business so I think I can supply in the skin and they can process.

Thank you for saving me from myself. I thought the difference was the “producer” bit in that row.

You're reading the wrong bit.
Scroll on down to the bit about wild game meat, and you'll see that Food business registration is required.