DeLisle .45

John Gryphon

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There may be a collector on here that has one, or has any member handled one at all?

 
There may be a collector on here that has one, or has any member handled one at all?

I've handled both an original and a reproduction. They are certainly not common but there's a few copies knocking around and I'm fairly sure that the copies were made in several different chamberings to the original. I can't remember the name of the gunmaker that was making them but I think he was producing them in 9mm using Glock magazines and possibly also in .38spl and .30 carbine.

Edit. I've just looked it up, it was Armalon.
 
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The man next to me on the Zeroing Range at Bisley a couple of years back was shooting one.
I remember it as deeply impressive: less noise than a sub-sonic .22LR, and perfectly adequate grouping (i.e. it hit the target!).
 
but I think he was producing them in 9mm using Glock magazines and possibly also in .38spl and .30 carbine.
That is very interesting for me.
I remember it as deeply impressive: less noise than a sub-sonic .22LR, and perfectly adequate grouping (i.e. it hit the target!).
And no doubt a nice group from a .45 on a blokes chest wouldn't be survivable.
 
Not shot one but I have seen a repro that was for sale a couple of years ago .
There are quite a few copies around of various styles and qualities.
One good thing is you don’t need a slot for a moderator as there integral 😜
 
Edit. I've just looked it up, it was Armalon.
Peter Sarony it was indeed. The original made sense back in the day when Commandos would also have carried the Thompson SMG in .45ACP. Nowadays it'd be a QM's nightmare once the carried on the man and with the unit ammunition was expended. And, I guess, the Patchett saw it off? As you'd both something if not "silent" but at least less noisy and using then universal 9mm Mk II cartridges used in the Browning High Power and the standard Sterling SMG. Plus if things went awry after contact with the enemy your Patchett also had a fully automatic capability and thirty two rounds in the magazine.
 
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The modern replica ones "fail" in that they don't bring the barrel back into the receiver and use a short bolt. The originals do. A better more modern solution if you did want a moderated pistol calibre bolt action would be a converted Ruger in .357 or, better maybe, the Ruger .44 IMHO.



 
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One of these .45acp.
 

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I handled a reproduction at Bisley many years ago, and we did fire it on the pistol ranges, very quiet, l was surprised.

The Peter Sarony one above I’ve shot one owned by a mate of mine in .45acp and the trigger was something else.
 
I’ve shot one. The trigger required more force than a wheel brace loosing a seized wheel nut and the sights were spud gun grade. Apparently, it was claimed this could be used out to 100 yards. Not a chance. The best group from any of the half dozen shooters at 50m was about 18 inches.

Didn’t think it was that quiet either but then I guess we’re all used to subsonic.22 and perhaps subsonic.308 as well.

FN
 
There may be a collector on here that has one, or has any member handled one at all?

I shot one many years ago. A real assassin‘s weapon. The magazine was divided into two compartments. The .45 rounds were stacked in the front compartment as I remember. The rear compartment was empty so that the ejected cases could drop into it. No evidence to leave behind. It was virtually silent and of course the rounds were subsonic, so no crack. I only shot it at a target 50m away, but it was very accurate. I would imagine an effective range of over 100m.
 
There may be a collector on here that has one, or has any member handled one at all?

not an SMLE action. I've recently had it rebarrelked, at great cost.
I own a ' De Lisle' Carbine, built on a No. 4
I've recently had it rebarrelled at great cost.
It's unique, and better than the SMLE versions. It has a 7 round magazine, integrated into the original magazine, so catches ejected cases. It also has a micrometer adjustable diopter sight.
£4000, if anyone is interested.
07590420108 ( no withelds please).
 
I’ve shot one. The trigger required more force than a wheel brace loosing a seized wheel nut and the sights were spud gun grade. Apparently, it was claimed this could be used out to 100 yards. Not a chance. The best group from any of the half dozen shooters at 50m was about 18 inches.

Didn’t think it was that quiet either but then I guess we’re all used to subsonic.22 and perhaps subsonic.308 as well.

FN
Mine isn't 22lr subsonic quiet, more, a much reduced short sharp crack.
 
The man next to me on the Zeroing Range at Bisley a couple of years back was shooting one.
I remember it as deeply impressive: less noise than a sub-sonic .22LR, and perfectly adequate grouping (i.e. it hit the target!).
May have been me, with mine on the Gallery Range.
 
I've handled an original and shot a repro when down in the states . An interesting rifle . There are a number of conversion kits available here to convert No 4 Lee Enfields to 45 ACP , as well as 7.62X39 . They're very popular and make a handy little truck gun . I've owned a few of both , a lot of fun to shoot .

AB
 
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