Buffalo hunt video left me XXXXXXX

[Stalker62]

As an aside, one thing I really liked about Darren was as we moved in he always took the sling off his rifle.

I remember Darren 'chastising' (he is the most polite of men), a client, after the client had taken a shot (not Buffalo) on a PG animal which was dead to the first shot.

"Please reload your rifle sir. This is Africa".

 

[stevec]

A PH once told me he hated most clients using calibres bigger than .375.
He stated that most were frightened of their rifles and because of that , did very little practice.
.458 is a great calibre but it does kick !!!

I was told exactly that by a PH.

There was some research done in the African Hunting Gazette that suggested that the 375 H and H performs better than the other common larger calibres on the first shot, mainly as it is more manageable

 

[User00053]

Unless HILAR a buff will not drop for a while even with perfect heart or smashing shoulders. If you can as you say you just keep firing. Usually a hip shot if it’s running away to disable it so you can get in quickly and finish it off. Tracking even with a really good frothy blood trail is always a bit tense. Especially in the Jesse. Usually 2 trackers. One tracking and one looking under the undergrowth to try and see it. Myself and PH usually side by side. The one below had been annoying some villagers so had to go. Nearest I have got to a scrum cap. Shot with Darren


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Could well imagine it could become a very addictive and consuming passion and dangerous in many ways

 

[sh1kar]

Could well imagine it could become a very addictive and consuming passion and dangerous in many ways

Those trackers literally put their lives in our hands if a charge. They are often on hands and knees

 

[baguio]

The shooting in America isn't much better. Wardens on you tube shows some pretty terrible shooting. Kids taking shots of several hundred metres at their first ever deer. No surprise that so many elk are running off injured.

 

[TURNBOLT]

That is sickening no wonder there are antis. Words fail me.

 

[Dickie]

Discussions on other threads coupled with the fact that some pals are going to Namibia shortly and one has “booked” a buffalo prompted me to look at a few videos on dangerous game hunting - much of which was excellent and on a few occasions utterly terrifying.
This morning I watched the first 15 minutes of this long two-part video and to be honest the last minute of that 15 left me very unsettled to the point of extremely uncomfortable. Not for a moment am I sitting in judgement of any man’s sport but I have many reservations over what took place in these particular few minutes and the fact that it has been broadcast at all. It would be interesting to hear other views - measured and reasoned please.

Possibly better video

 

[HallyButt]

I always thought I’d want to hunt a buff one day, not anymore. If you can’t kill something outright, you shouldn’t shoot it.

 

[Stalker62]

I always thought I’d want to hunt a buff one day, not anymore. If you can’t kill something outright, you shouldn’t shoot it.

Fair enough.

There is a reason that .375 is the minimum calibre for DG.

I have used .375 and .416 (larger calibres are available), there is absolutely no guarantee that a Buffalo will drop into its shadow - it is just not how they are.

Additionally, I saw in the video that in one hunt, the client did not pay the 'insurance shot' - shooting a dead Buffalo in the neck to ensure it is indeed dead.

Not unheard of for 'dead' Buffalo to get up and kill you.

 

[HallyButt]

I only watched the second ‘better’ video, god knows what the first one is like…

I still vividly remember having to ‘finish off’ the couple of deer where my initial shot was rushed and poor (when first started out) I’d rather not add to unpleasant memories.

 

[Stalker62]

I only watched the second ‘better’ video, god knows what the first one is like…

There is nothing in that first video which is worth watching.

It is annoying and sad on so many levels...

 

[EMcC]

Speaking to an African friend of mine about this and what I classed as a sad depiction of hunting surprised me with his answer.
He said it is very rare for an old Dagga boy to drop to the first shot and it is common practise, due to their strength and the fact that always use solid shot to gain penetration, that they pump bullets until it stops moving, on the run or otherwise and regardless of the sight picture.
I mentioned that some shots were on a going away animal and he said that makes no difference, once targeted they must stop the animal at all costs regardless of meat damage.
Looking at it from that point of view then I suppose it makes sense, no matter how distasteful it seems, rather than have a wounded animal running off to suffer over many days.
Incidentally, my friend grew up in Africa and his father was a PH.

 

[Liveonce]

Not for me, even if I could afford it, dangerous game they hardly looked like wild beasts, they looked managed just for shooting at a fee. Which hopefully supports true game conservation.

 

[Morkai]

Wouldn't pass his DSC1 would he.

I felt bad enough when a longer shot on a goat drifted and blew its side out, even though the follow up shot was only seconds later.

 

[User00053]

Those trackers literally put their lives in our hands if a charge. They are often on hands and knees

Not wishing to detract from their bond with the shooters or skills but they are probably a cross between mo farah and a gazelle and have the job sussed knowing they can leg it leaving the less agile but armed fellows to face the music and gruffalow though would be interesting to see if animal followed them or wanted first person it met.

 

[old 30-06]

This "hunt" is just awful. Visually it is on par with American's shooting Canada Geese on the ground as they land. To make matters worse, it is then publicised ! Putting stuff like this on U-tube undermines all the rest of us.

 

[nun_hunter]

I was told exactly that by a PH.

There was some research done in the African Hunting Gazette that suggested that the 375 H and H performs better than the other common larger calibres on the first shot, mainly as it is more manageable

All the more reason to allow already authorised DG rifles for hunting UK deer.

 

[User00053]

Personally to me it just highlights the reality of some hunting or shooting of live creatures and the reality is it’s gets messy at times and not for everyone. Bit like the early cowboy movies when a injun gets shot and simply falls over stone dead, every picture tells a story and do not have a problem with the dispatch methods very much put up or shut up situation or stick to target shooting if troubling to the individual or join mr packham which is fine also.

 

[Namman]

Speaking to an African friend of mine about this and what I classed as a sad depiction of hunting surprised me with his answer.
He said it is very rare for an old Dagga boy to drop to the first shot and it is common practise, due to their strength and the fact that always use solid shot to gain penetration, that they pump bullets until it stops moving, on the run or otherwise and regardless of the sight picture.
I mentioned that some shots were on a going away animal and he said that makes no difference, once targeted they must stop the animal at all costs regardless of meat damage.
Looking at it from that point of view then I suppose it makes sense, no matter how distasteful it seems, rather than have a wounded animal running off to suffer over many days.
Incidentally, my friend grew up in Africa and his father was a PH.

Who on earth would worry about meat damage on dangerous game ??

 

[finnbear270]

OK, I wasn't there ... & I know the video camera's zoom was in & out all the way through the film, but at the moment of that first shot on the Buff with a brown patch on his back, It looked a country mile away.