Electric Vehicle purchase (used)

[John Gryphon]

You will encounter lots of anti EV opinions on here,

Rightfully so too.

Go for it and ignore the dinosaurs on here who'll tell you it's the equivalent of the end of the world

Further the discussion to include the huge distances in Australia (+elsewhere) and those dinosaurs are correct in that its the arse end of the world for electric vehicles here that have to cope with 'the tyranny of distance'
btw reports of these fabled battery driven cars towing a van/laden trailer suggest that they are not worth a **** full of cold water.

worth saying a big bonus of electric cars is they dont wear their brakes very quickly because of the way they use electric braking to recharge

oh fkn wow ha ha

 

[Jagdmatch]

I had a BMW i3 (now thankfully written off) the issues are:
Initial cost of buying new. Second hand prices are low because people are unsure about the battery life
Repair costs. I would not trust anybody other than main dealer for repairs
Charging . Fine in built up areas but very patchy elsewhere. Taking it as the holiday vehicle is an adventure
Cost. Cheaper to service but began to suspect that charging at home 3-4 times a week was more expensive than petrol
Battery life/range is compromised by using heating in the winter and air on in the summer.
All a bit negative but if it’s for to and from work and local use very good. I could have used it to drive to work (60 mile each way) but no charging there so may not have got back!
That said, if my defender engine died I would seriously look at an electrical conversion if the price was sensible

 

[Liveonce]

Wrong.
Most, if not all EVs can display the remaining capacity of their batteries either directly on a display in the vehicle or via an app
Since manufacturers warranties on EV batteries are based on the state of the battery, there needs to be a way to measure and display that value such that it can be seen by both the owner and manufacturer

Cheers

Cheers

Bruce

Well this man does not agree with you.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Well this man does not agree with you.

He's one of the dinosaurs I referred to in my earlier post

Cheers

Bruce

 

[mealiejimmy]

Rightfully so too.

Further the discussion to include the huge distances in Australia (+elsewhere) and those dinosaurs are correct in that its the arse end of the world for electric vehicles here that have to cope with 'the tyranny of distance'
btw reports of these fabled battery driven cars towing a van/laden trailer suggest that they are not worth a **** full of cold water.


oh fkn wow ha ha

John, read the OP posts
He's looking for a car for his wife who has a 5 mile daily commute - she's not going into the feckin outback

Cheers

Bruce

 

[John Gryphon]

John, read the OP posts
He's looking for a car for his wife who has a 5 mile daily commute - she's not going into the feckin outback

Cheers

Bruce

Bruce he may want to drive to Lands End one day, I dont think John `O Groats be in the battery ha ha.

In all seriousness how many charging stations are there between the two destinations?

 

[sh1kar]

Bruce he may want to drive to Lands End one day, I dont think John `O Groats be in the battery ha ha.

In all seriousness how many charging stations are there between the two destinations?

57,290

 

[StoatallyDifferent]

Go for it and ignore the dinosaurs on here who'll tell you it's the equivalent of the end of the world

Cheers

Bruce

Absolutely this, who cares about child slaves mining rare minerals out of the ground with their bare hands anyway. At least you won’t be reliant on fossil fuels (aside from the ones used to generate a decent chunk of the electricity your EV requires).

Way I see it is this. In twenty years, will a well maintained ICE vehicle still run? Yup, and you’ll be able to sell it. Will an EV? Sure, but how many battery changes have you had, then who is going to want to buy a used EV? Besides, they’ll probably be obsolete by then anyway. It’s a racket designed to make you poorer in the long run, whilst convincing you that you’re saving money and pleasing Saint Greta.

 

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[Camdig]

Plenty info on the EV Diesel comparison, john a groats to Lands End this wasn't too bad a watch.

IMO invest in a stihl saw with metal disc and cut the Edinburgh ULEZ cameras down and run L200, get couple more years out the Peugeot which leaves plenty more money for shooting/Stalking everybody happy

 

[John Gryphon]

57,290

B-U-LL-S-H-I-T

 

[sh1kar]

B-U-LL-S-H-I-T

Google is your friend

 

[StoatallyDifferent]

Google is your friend

Well, no it isn’t. It only ever tells half the story.



Screengrab is pretty poor, but full details here: EV charging statistics 2024 - Zapmap.

 

[jthyttin]

John, read the OP posts
He's looking for a car for his wife who has a 5 mile daily commute - she's not going into the feckin outback

I read it so that OP is using the "new" car for commuting to ULEZ zone (unknown distance). And wife is using L200 for commute and stables. Anyway same result, only that with EV they'd have to use L200 for longer trips to the outback...

 

[John Gryphon]

Once again.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/on-the-road/electric-vehicles-worse-for-environment-than-petrol-cars-study-finds/news-story/2cc371a90a1f24275d864c893a629fea

 

[vpk999]

I have a Hilux and my Wife has a MG5 ev, which suits her usage just nicely.

She gets 210 miles from a full charge in the summer and around 165 miles in the winter, as the battery is less efficient due to the cold.

She has had the car from new for nearly 2 years and it has been excellent.

We have a home charger, which cuts down the cost of charging and seldom use public chargers, which are a bit pricey.

If you are doing city driving in the ULEZ, it would be a good idea; especially if you can get a home charger.

We used Cleevely home servicing last year and will use again this year. Hassle free and cheap enough.

I wouldn't worry too much about the battery.

 

[gr cz527]

thanks for all the replies folks. lots of food for thought.

 

[Automan]

Went to Cornwall with a friends normal journey time 4/5 hours, in an volkswagen ev 9 hours there 8 hours back 3 stops to recharge each way. I will remain a dinosaur but one that gets there and back quicker than an ev oh and don't forget the boxing lessons for when your fighting for a charging point on a bank holiday at a service station

 

[John Gryphon]

don't forget the boxing lessons for when your fighting for a charging point on a bank holiday at a service station

I love that ref.

 

[Bo Diddley]

I had to chuckle when I just read an article about a Jaguar i Pace that had to be blocked and brought to a halt by police drivers on the motorway when its braking system failed... could happen to any car I suppose.