why is it hard too get out stalking or get into a stalking syndicate

[swaro79]

hi all!!not a rant just want to know why is it so hard to get into stalking or should I say getting out there!!!you have all your tickets and more but no doors open?the reason I ask is that a few friends are finding it very hard to get onto the stalking seen {thats the way I put it} deer are a problem everywhere and just thought more guns and certificates the better but no!!there finding it hard to get out?it seems like no right away?give a chance?yes not all are up to it but taking under wing comes to hand!show them teach them!but its dosent seem to happen its usually a no or no chance.has anyone else come across this?I know all are not like this but seems to happen a lot {WHY} if someone is keen to go out and help and learn why is it a problem??really frustrates me sometimes.
!JUST WANTING TO KNOW WHY! MORE HAND S THE BETTER!
SEEMS TO BE A CLICK IF THE FACE DOZENT FIT NO CHANCE!
REGARDS SWARO

 

[bigtone]

Try around here you can't even get any vermin shooting let alone deer stalking.

 

[ColinBr]

Take them under your wing like you say. What's stopping you?

 

[swaro79]

Take them under your wing like you say. What's stopping you?

ive done it!as I can!believe me its hard! hate seeing people struggle to get out there to learn shoot stalk!keen young people !
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[swaro79]

Try around here you can't even get any vermin shooting let alone deer stalking.

thats what I mean!WHY

 

[DeerCapow]

I’m going to follow this thread, as a newcomer I do find this of interest.

Before I joined this forum I was told in a conversation with someone who manages deer: “I wish you good luck finding a place on your own”. From that moment I understood that the problem is not even having a FAC or own a rifle, it is land ownership and whoever has land with deer already has someone under perhaps some kind of contract.

That’s my understanding.
Although, as you mentioned syndicates, reading around this forum does show that one must take precautions when applying for a syndicate and should do due diligence - I read @sikamalc post on things to look out for

I don’t really know much more, let’s see what others say

 

[swaro79]

I’m going to follow this thread, as a newcomer I do find this of interest.

Before I joined this forum I was told in a conversation with someone who manages deer: “I wish you good luck finding a place on your own”. From that moment I understood that the problem is not even having a FAC or own a rifle, it is land ownership and whoever has land with deer already has someone under perhaps some kind of contract.

That’s my understanding.
Although, as you mentioned syndicates, reading around this forum does show that one must take precautions when applying for a syndicate and should do due diligence - I read @sikamalc post on things to look out for

I don’t really know much more, let’s see what others s

 

[Rake Aboot]

Money

 

[swaro79]

all im asking is !WHY! everyone hast to learn!GIVE A CHANCE!Iif someone is keen and not idiot lets go!lets find out!plus your getting someone new into it?

 

[swaro79]

Money

money is not everything! yes it helps but keenness should come first and willing to learn always plus in my book.

 

[Rake Aboot]

You asked what the reason was
I told you.

 

[swaro79]

You asked what the reason was
I told you.

it shouldnt be only money!

 

[swaro79]

if someone is keen to learn and go out!is that not a plus!!!

 

[Malxwal]

Too much land controlled /"managed" by those who make a living from charging wealthy customers for a "day out".
Land held by those who don't shoot enough.
Land owned by folk who don't want shooting on their bit.
Folk who think proceeds from carcass should pay for all their outlay.
Estates who think private individuals should pay to do their deer management for them instead of employees.

 

[swaro79]

Too much land controlled /"managed" by those who make a living from charging wealthy customers.

think your right!

 

[ColinBr]

ive done it!as I can!believe me its hard! hate seeing people struggle to get out there to learn shoot stalk!keen young people !
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Do you have ground of your own that you shoot on, or are you in a syndicate?

If so, ask if you can take them on under your wing. You may be surprised, who knows?

I have recently done the same myself and had him added to our syndicate.

On the other foot he knows a few folks locally who have now given us permission to shoot on local farms for vermin, and a local scrap yard for rats.

 

[swaro79]

me personally I would honesty help anyone out who needed help in any way!but hey thats just me!

 

[ColinBr]

me personally I would honesty help anyone out who needed help in any way!but hey thats just me!

Not just you

 

[swaro79]

Not just you

your right but just hate seeing keen people rejected thats all

 

[Rake Aboot]

think your right!

So money then .

It’s always been that way

I’ve had this same discussion many times on here .
It’s not what I’d have but it’s the facts .