Well better maybe than the Johnson Cabinet and Carrie Antionette and the associated coterie of "animal rights" folk?

[enfieldspares]

Did many SD members know that David Lammy's late father was a taxidermist? And that, as his son has said, his father lost his work and employment owing to "animal rights issues" affecting the taxidermy profession. So he may be a friend in any forthcoming battle over trophy imports.

David Lammy: Tottenham past and present – a memoir

'As I passed the charred remains of two police cars and a bus, the scale of the damage became clear – the devastation surpassed anything I had seen in Tottenham as a kid…'

www.theguardian.com

Sometimes it pays to read the "Guardian Weekley" while sitting on the Eurostar to Paris as I did yesterday.

My father was a taxidermist, not a run-of-the-mill profession for a West Indian immigrant. Having given up on becoming a vet, he settled for working with dead animals rather than live ones. Dad was a true craftsman, an artist. I remember watching his hands bring this menagerie to life, and his broad, bright-white-toothed smile when customers walked out wearing satisfied expressions. But as the 80s loomed, the recession meant there was less money in those customers' pockets. With a new agenda of animal rights, wildlife protection and licensing and export controls, Dad struggled to make a living. He started drinking heavily. As his business lost its way, so did he.

These from elsewhere:

My dad was a taxidermist. He had a factory and it was a wonderful place to roam as a child, with the smell of chemicals and these huge animals that he was building.

He was young and cocky as he boarded an old Dakota DC-3 warplane from his natove Guyana to Trinidad, before empbarking on a six week voyage aboatd the SS Luciana steamship to Genoa. From there he made a winding journey across Europe to Southampton. He was able to immigrate to the UK thanks to an Assisted Passage Scheme which allowed him to become a taxidermist.

David Lammy

 

[palmer_mike]

• On 15 Sep 2004avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting BillShow vote
• On 30 Jun 2003avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting Bill — New Clause 11 — Registration in Respect of Hunting of FoxesShow vote
• On 18 Mar 2002avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting with Dogs: BanShow vote

Minor votes​

• On 30 Jun 2003avid Lammy voted no on Hunting Bill — New Clause 6 — Use of Dogs Below Ground (No. 2)Show vote
• On 30 Jun 2003avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting Bill — New Clause 14 — Registration in Respect of Hunting of MinkShow vote
• On 18 Mar 2002avid Lammy voted no on Hunting with Dogs: Self-Supervision SchemeShow vote
• On 18 Mar 2002avid Lammy voted no on Hunting with Dogs: Hunting Under Licence

Certainly no friend to the fox hunting fraternity……..

 

[Frank Homes]

Did many SD members know that David Lammy's late father was a taxidermist? And that, as his son has said, his father lost his work and employment owing to "animal rights issues" affecting the taxidermy profession. So he may be a friend in any forthcoming battle over trophy imports.

David Lammy: Tottenham past and present – a memoir

'As I passed the charred remains of two police cars and a bus, the scale of the damage became clear – the devastation surpassed anything I had seen in Tottenham as a kid…'

www.theguardian.com

Sometimes it pays to read the "Guardian Weekley" while sitting on the Eurostar to Paris as I did yesterday.

My father was a taxidermist, not a run-of-the-mill profession for a West Indian immigrant. Having given up on becoming a vet, he settled for working with dead animals rather than live ones. Dad was a true craftsman, an artist. I remember watching his hands bring this menagerie to life, and his broad, bright-white-toothed smile when customers walked out wearing satisfied expressions. But as the 80s loomed, the recession meant there was less money in those customers' pockets. With a new agenda of animal rights, wildlife protection and licensing and export controls, Dad struggled to make a living. He started drinking heavily. As his business lost its way, so did he.

These from elsewhere:

My dad was a taxidermist. He had a factory and it was a wonderful place to roam as a child, with the smell of chemicals and these huge animals that he was building.

He was young and cocky as he boarded an old Dakota DC-3 warplane from his natove Guyana to Trinidad, before empbarking on a six week voyage aboatd the SS Luciana steamship to Genoa. From there he made a winding journey across Europe to Southampton. He was able to immigrate to the UK thanks to an Assisted Passage Scheme which allowed him to become a taxidermist.

David Lammy

Are you really endorsing that idiot?

 

[timbrayford]

• On 15 Sep 2004avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting BillShow vote
• On 30 Jun 2003avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting Bill — New Clause 11 — Registration in Respect of Hunting of FoxesShow vote
• On 18 Mar 2002avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting with Dogs: BanShow vote

Minor votes​

• On 30 Jun 2003avid Lammy voted no on Hunting Bill — New Clause 6 — Use of Dogs Below Ground (No. 2)Show vote
• On 30 Jun 2003avid Lammy voted yes on Hunting Bill — New Clause 14 — Registration in Respect of Hunting of MinkShow vote
• On 18 Mar 2002avid Lammy voted no on Hunting with Dogs: Self-Supervision SchemeShow vote
• On 18 Mar 2002avid Lammy voted no on Hunting with Dogs: Hunting Under Licence

Certainly no friend to the fox hunting fraternity……..

If I recall correctly didn't John Swift , then CEO of BASC speak up in support of the Hunting Bill?

 

[jall55]

If I recall correctly didn't John Swift , then CEO of BASC speak up in support of the Hunting Bill?

Well we dont like him either

 

[Smellydog]

My old gamekeeper mate always said, "Nathan, lift the lid on a sewer and note the **** always floats to the top....!"

 

[palmer_mike]

If I recall correctly didn't John Swift , then CEO of BASC speak up in support of the Hunting Bill?

Possibly, but then he’s a pillock as well

 

[del.gue]

Lammy is dumb as a box of hammers.
Was interviewed last week and reckons a man can grow a uteris with certain drugs!!
EVerytime i see him he making a t*t of himself.

 

[enfieldspares]

Certainly no friend to the fox hunting fraternity……..

Nor if you revisit the Hunting Bill is or was Anne Widdecombe yet some thinks she of the Brexit Party walked on water..

It is axiomatic that when the Chamber passes law, we expect it to be enforced. It is quite wrong if a group of people believe that they are uniquely above the law and, furthermore, that their breaches of the law may be blatant and rejoiced in. I hate to say it, but I have even heard hon. Members boasting that they have been hunting since the passing of the ban. We need to ask why the ban is not being properly enforced.

To date, there has been only one successful prosecution for hunting with packs of hounds. The huntsman of the Exmoor Foxhounds was convicted of illegal hunting, although an appeal is outstanding. The interesting thing is that the judge, when summing up, said explicitly that there are

"only a small number of wooden areas on Exmoor" and thus, in his opinion, that

"flushing cannot take place legally anywhere on Exmoor."

Yet, I have not heard that the Exmoor Foxhounds has been disbanded. I have not heard that hunting on Exmoor has ceased. Indeed, all that I have heard is that a public meeting was laid on by the hunt to protest that the law dared to take its course and that a conviction had actually been secured. The sad thing is that that prosecution was not brought by the police or sanctioned by the Crown Prosecution Service. It was actually brought by the League Against Cruel Sports.

and

I think that the Minister will acknowledge that the hunts are carrying on because they are waiting for a change, which they think will take place at the next general election. They hope that the legislation will then be repealed, which is even greater reason to make their lives uncomfortable between now and then.

 

[palmer_mike]

Nor if you revisit the Hunting Bill is or was Anne Widdecombe yet some thinks she of the Brexit Party walked on water..

What’s that got to do with anything? No one started a thread singing the praises of AW

 

[enfieldspares]

Certainly no friend to the fox hunting fraternity……..

And the fox hunting fraternity are proven to be no friends of any other method of fox control. Witness their attacks on snaring and on lamping when the Hunting Bill was being debated. All talk of foxes with guts blown out dying lingering deaths and of people wandering around at night with high powered rifles. A happy band content to sell out everybody else to try to save their own recreational activities.

 

[enfieldspares]

What’s that got to do with anything? No one started a thread singing the praises of AW

Nor was I aware that anyone apart from yourself had started a thread on the now twenty year old Hunting Bill. But since you opened that door then, heck, let's have another look behind it why not?

 

[Smellydog]

And the fox hunting fraternity are proven to be no friends of any other method of fox control. Witness their attacks on snaring and on lamping when the Hunting Bill was being debated. All talk of foxes with guts blown out dying lingering deaths and of people wandering around at night with high powered rifles. A happy band content to sell out everybody else to try to save their own recreational activities.

I remember that, the two faced....

 

[palmer_mike]

And the fox hunting fraternity are proven to be no friends of any other method of fox control. Witness their attacks on snaring and on lamping when the Hunting Bill was being debated. All talk of foxes with guts blown out dying lingering deaths and of people wandering around at night with high powered rifles. A happy band content to sell out everybody else to try to save their own recreational activities.

Nor was I aware that anyone apart from yourself had started a thread on the now twenty year old Hunting Bill. But since you opened that door then, heck, let's have another look behind it why not?

I have no real interest in fox hunting. Do you not think it unlikely that he will support trophy hunting though?
I do.

 

[palmer_mike]

Nor was I aware that anyone apart from yourself had started a thread on the now twenty year old Hunting Bill. But since you opened that door then, heck, let's have another look behind it why not?

I’ve not started a thread on it, just googled his history of voting in parliament. It was the closest this of relevance to field sports.

 

[enfieldspares]

I have no real interest in fox hunting. Do you not think it unlikely that he will support trophy hunting though?

I don't know. He certainly didn't vote to support the proposed ban on it in 2023/2024 if you look at Hansard. However a number of Tory MPs including the now gone Johnny Mercer, did as did a number of Labour MPs. Two Tory MPs still in Parliament that did support it were Stuart Andrew and James Cartlidge.

 

[Frank Homes]

And the fox hunting fraternity are proven to be no friends of any other method of fox control. Witness their attacks on snaring and on lamping when the Hunting Bill was being debated. All talk of foxes with guts blown out dying lingering deaths and of people wandering around at night with high powered rifles. A happy band content to sell out everybody else to try to save their own recreational activities.

Why start the stupid post in the first place,probably your dumbest in a while. As I've said before stick to shooting you seem to know a bit about that at least.

 

[enfieldspares]

Why start the stupid post in the first place,probably your dumbest in a while. As I've said before stick to shooting you seem to know a bit about that at least.

Notwithstanding how little that might be it appears at least I know more such that than you show yourself to know about common civility and manners.

Still there's always room, it seems, for an idiot comment to add to what was simply a posting about Lammy's father having been a taxidermist and his son's clear affection for his memory of his father's business place. And, by inference, that this may be of interest were a future trophy hunting bill be proposed in future.

I've no issue with constructive criticism but if people merely want to post abusive heckling that adds nothing maybe next time best they take it elsewhere.

 

[csl]

And closed.