Successful stalk and a chance to try the new chiller

So whilst I'm still awaiting my fac variation to allow me to shoot my new permission, I thought I'd start prepping for when I can.

It was a decision to properly cement this in as my replacement hobby since motorbikes are out (family tragedy and 2 young kids). Time to ditch the motorbike wardrobe in the garage, and replace it with a chiller. I managed to find a decent drinks chiller for £50, and I 3D printed some risers for a hanging bar. Add a temperature sensor and it's all there.

During the chiller setup, I saw someone online mentioning a cancellation for a stalk and included carcass. Perfect!

We met up over in West Sussex, and after a bit of a run down on my experience (let's call that brief and detailed 😁), we drove into the first bit of woods and parked up.

The plan was set. We were to walk up, ignoring anything on the right due to the lack of backstop, and focus left. Wind was bad, blowing from behind us. Nonetheless, if we see something he will hang back and I was to go forward alone and take a shot if safe and possible.

We get 300m and already we have fallow ahead. I move forward but with the wind, they're off in a flash. This happens once more before we change direction and follow the wood down.

We next see a bunch of fallow, including some nice big bucks, moving into the valley below us. Probably our best opportunity. I crouch as low as possible and move forwards. Thermal, rifle, sticks. It's all feeling a bit of a juggling act. I can see them but I've also been told never to shoot through branches so I press on trying to get closer. It's dire. In my head I'm thinking I'll swiftly and silently beat them to a clear spot ahead, but as I close they cotton on and make a run for it. I head back and he asks what my assessment of that opportunity was. "Clumsy". He said that's exactly the right word.

What I should have done is just find a small window through the trees, and just wait for them to come into it rather than try and put myself into a window to see them where they are. Let them do the moving. Ok, I'll file that away.

My rifle doesn't sling well on my back, so I'm constantly trying to hold that safely on my shoulder whilst simultaneously working a thermal, whilst holding my sticks. I've basically decided I hate sticks. The sling I can work on at home, but the sticks are just annoying. Also, despite the drizzle, my glasses are steaming up and when I look through the scope, I need to ensure they're right up my nose or I'm looking over the top of them. Contacts next time. All lessons learnt.

We head back to the car and drive up to another area, a farm up the road.

As we walk up, I spot something on the crest of the hill. "that's a fox", he says. "careful not to spook it or if there's fallow in the valley it'll spook them too". As we get closer and it turns, we realise it's actually a Roe. He tells me to get ready to shoot and I tell him there's no backstop. "Good, well then stalk forward until you get one from the valley". I think I passed that little test.

As I move forward slowly, I see there's actually a buck lying off to the left. I can only see the head and don't fancy a headshot. I'm on the sticks and it stands. Perfect. Chest shot and we hear the impact.

His dog in training is straight on it and we have success.

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After a short drag back, we go through the gralloch and everything is good there. It's not the fallow we were after but we take it.

We don't stop there, going elsewhere after fallow but after laying prone in soaking wet grass and drizzle, all we see are Does. For this bit though, I left my sticks in the car and just went down to my knee for any potential shots. It felt SO much better. I hate sticks, despite 3 out of 4 of my shots on deer being from sticks.

It doesn't matter though. Ultimately it was the experience I was after and to come away with a carcass to test the fridge is just the cherry on top.

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The missus has very mixed feelings about having a carcass in the house. City girl, so she actually believed me when I jokingly said I'd brought it home all butchered and in food packaging. I've got some privacy frosting for the front of the chiller coming today, to save her the eyeful when she wants to use the washing machine in the garage. And to save me the earful. She certainly appreciates a good venison pie though.

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I do have a pouch on my binocular harness. As I'm moving forward though I am using the thermal in my left hand, with my sticks in my right hand and my rifle on my back.
You could look at getting a sling that will stay in place (a Niggeloh, Z-aim, etc) or modify you current sling so that it doesn’t slip.

My only other suggestion is not to be too reliant on your thermal. Where do your binos come into the equation?
 
I do have a pouch on my binocular harness. As I'm moving forward though I am using the thermal in my left hand, with my sticks in my right hand and my rifle on my back.
Have you not got the thermal attached to a lanyard around your neck? That way, you can just drop it.
Are you right handed? I would be carrying sticks in left hand, rifle on right shoulder, thermal in right hand. Drop thermal, deploy sticks with left hand, mount rifle with right hand, bang!
 
How you carry sticks can make a real difference, too. If using quadsticks that clip together, try unclipping them and keeping a few fingers between the legs as you stalk. That way you can operate your sticks one-handed.
 
Quake claw sling is your answer to slipping rifle
My sling is a 3hgr so I should be able to wrap the second strap around me. I think I just need to tweak the length but I had taped up the excess strap so it was non adjustable on the day. I'll have a play around with the straps whilst wearing all my gear at home
Have you not got the thermal attached to a lanyard around your neck? That way, you can just drop it.
Are you right handed? I would be carrying sticks in left hand, rifle on right shoulder, thermal in right hand. Drop thermal, deploy sticks with left hand, mount rifle with right hand, bang!
I'm right handed but left eye dominant so I'm shooting left handed and scanning with thermal with left too. Once I've done my scanning I can pop thermal in pouch with one hand and "deploy". It's the sling I need to sort really.
 
My sling is a 3hgr so I should be able to wrap the second strap around me. I think I just need to tweak the length but I had taped up the excess strap so it was non adjustable on the day. I'll have a play around with the straps whilst wearing all my gear at home

I'm right handed but left eye dominant so I'm shooting left handed and scanning with thermal with left too. Once I've done my scanning I can pop thermal in pouch with one hand and "deploy". It's the sling I need to sort really.
Ok, so just swap left and right in my instructions above.
If you're carrying muzzle down it's even easier.

And, if you ever get a chance, go out one day as an observer with someone who's shooting 500+ deer a year. Pay particular attention to how they, one handedly, swing the rifle off their back and onto the sticks. Very slick and quick. And I bet they've just got a simple sling with no extra straps, clips, buckles or quick release mechanisms.
 
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How you carry sticks can make a real difference, too. If using quadsticks that clip together, try unclipping them and keeping a few fingers between the legs as you stalk. That way you can operate your sticks one-handed.
I carry a length of dog rose with my quads on a couple of farms to act as a 5th stick on very last light as getting across stubble is noisy so with a long fox I have time but the range may be an issue so just put it into the ground and lock it off.
Only use it on the odd times but makes a difference as shoots like a "got a fox text"
 
I carry a length of dog rose with my quads on a couple of farms to act as a 5th stick on very last light as getting across stubble is noisy so with a long fox I have time but the range may be an issue so just put it into the ground and lock it off.
Only use it on the odd times but makes a difference as shoots like a "got a fox text"
I’ve just acquired a fifth leg for mine. Yet to use it in anger but think it will be v handy.

Everybody loves a “got a fox” message 😂
 
My sling is a 3hgr so I should be able to wrap the second strap around me. I think I just need to tweak the length but I had taped up the excess strap so it was non adjustable on the day. I'll have a play around with the straps whilst wearing all my gear at home

I'm right handed but left eye dominant so I'm shooting left handed and scanning with thermal with left too. Once I've done my scanning I can pop thermal in pouch with one hand and "deploy". It's the sling I need to sort really.
Eye dominance should make no difference for using a thermal or scoped rifle, you just focus on the eye you’re using or close the other eye.

It only comes into play shooting shotguns, maybe iron sighted rifles.
 
Ok, so just swap left and right in my instructions above.
If you're carrying muzzle down it's even easier.

And, if you ever get a chance, go out one day as an observer with someone who's shooting 500+ deer a year. Pay particular attention to how they, one handedly, swing the rifle off their back and onto the sticks. Very slick and quick. And I bet they've just got a simple sling with no extra straps, clips, buckles or quick release mechanisms.

I can get the rifle on sticks quickly and with no fuss, one of the things I teach people I am mentoring early on. But this is from muzzle up, I find it a faff from muzzle down. Getting out regularly on rabbits helps pick it up quickly. Trouble is, there’s none left any more!
 
My sling is a 3hgr so I should be able to wrap the second strap around me. I think I just need to tweak the length but I had taped up the excess strap so it was non adjustable on the day. I'll have a play around with the straps whilst wearing all my gear at home

I'm right handed but left eye dominant so I'm shooting left handed and scanning with thermal with left too. Once I've done my scanning I can pop thermal in pouch with one hand and "deploy". It's the sling I need to sort really.
Speaking from experience these fancy straps here and there- slings are nothing but annoyance. A quake claw just works as a sling, end of, keep it simple I say. Btw I also shoot left handed as I’m left eyed and it’s simple as. I keep thermal on a neck sling and binos in a harness. Sticks in right hand…
 
Speaking from experience these fancy straps here and there- slings are nothing but annoyance. A quake claw just works as a sling, end of, keep it simple I say. Btw I also shoot left handed as I’m left eyed and it’s simple as. I keep thermal on a neck sling and binos in a harness. Sticks in right hand…
Good answer, snap on the whole method (less the bins) also left hand with a RH rifle, tbh all this carrying thing was sorted out for me as a lad... ferret box bag of nets slasher spade... rabbits hocked and on slasher handle...then later bags of long nets and poles more ferrets longer graft etc All have to be carried.
A lot of people on here have missed out on some very valuable lessons on the ways to get thing done easily
 
So whilst I'm still awaiting my fac variation to allow me to shoot my new permission, I thought I'd start prepping for when I can.

It was a decision to properly cement this in as my replacement hobby since motorbikes are out (family tragedy and 2 young kids). Time to ditch the motorbike wardrobe in the garage, and replace it with a chiller. I managed to find a decent drinks chiller for £50, and I 3D printed some risers for a hanging bar. Add a temperature sensor and it's all there.

During the chiller setup, I saw someone online mentioning a cancellation for a stalk and included carcass. Perfect!

We met up over in West Sussex, and after a bit of a run down on my experience (let's call that brief and detailed 😁), we drove into the first bit of woods and parked up.

The plan was set. We were to walk up, ignoring anything on the right due to the lack of backstop, and focus left. Wind was bad, blowing from behind us. Nonetheless, if we see something he will hang back and I was to go forward alone and take a shot if safe and possible.

We get 300m and already we have fallow ahead. I move forward but with the wind, they're off in a flash. This happens once more before we change direction and follow the wood down.

We next see a bunch of fallow, including some nice big bucks, moving into the valley below us. Probably our best opportunity. I crouch as low as possible and move forwards. Thermal, rifle, sticks. It's all feeling a bit of a juggling act. I can see them but I've also been told never to shoot through branches so I press on trying to get closer. It's dire. In my head I'm thinking I'll swiftly and silently beat them to a clear spot ahead, but as I close they cotton on and make a run for it. I head back and he asks what my assessment of that opportunity was. "Clumsy". He said that's exactly the right word.

What I should have done is just find a small window through the trees, and just wait for them to come into it rather than try and put myself into a window to see them where they are. Let them do the moving. Ok, I'll file that away.

My rifle doesn't sling well on my back, so I'm constantly trying to hold that safely on my shoulder whilst simultaneously working a thermal, whilst holding my sticks. I've basically decided I hate sticks. The sling I can work on at home, but the sticks are just annoying. Also, despite the drizzle, my glasses are steaming up and when I look through the scope, I need to ensure they're right up my nose or I'm looking over the top of them. Contacts next time. All lessons learnt.

We head back to the car and drive up to another area, a farm up the road.

As we walk up, I spot something on the crest of the hill. "that's a fox", he says. "careful not to spook it or if there's fallow in the valley it'll spook them too". As we get closer and it turns, we realise it's actually a Roe. He tells me to get ready to shoot and I tell him there's no backstop. "Good, well then stalk forward until you get one from the valley". I think I passed that little test.

As I move forward slowly, I see there's actually a buck lying off to the left. I can only see the head and don't fancy a headshot. I'm on the sticks and it stands. Perfect. Chest shot and we hear the impact.

His dog in training is straight on it and we have success.

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After a short drag back, we go through the gralloch and everything is good there. It's not the fallow we were after but we take it.

We don't stop there, going elsewhere after fallow but after laying prone in soaking wet grass and drizzle, all we see are Does. For this bit though, I left my sticks in the car and just went down to my knee for any potential shots. It felt SO much better. I hate sticks, despite 3 out of 4 of my shots on deer being from sticks.

It doesn't matter though. Ultimately it was the experience I was after and to come away with a carcass to test the fridge is just the cherry on top.

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The missus has very mixed feelings about having a carcass in the house. City girl, so she actually believed me when I jokingly said I'd brought it home all butchered and in food packaging. I've got some privacy frosting for the front of the chiller coming today, to save her the eyeful when she wants to use the washing machine in the garage. And to save me the earful. She certainly appreciates a good venison pie though.

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nice write up and a nicer Buck, well done👍
 
My sling is a 3hgr so I should be able to wrap the second strap around me. I think I just need to tweak the length but I had taped up the excess strap so it was non adjustable on the day. I'll have a play around with the straps whilst wearing all my gear at home

I'm right handed but left eye dominant so I'm shooting left handed and scanning with thermal with left too. Once I've done my scanning I can pop thermal in pouch with one hand and "deploy". It's the sling I need to sort really.
I use the same sling, can't utilise the waist routing due to carrying a roe sack, oh and before singing stalker chirps up the size of my waistline doesn't help but using the high position its fine.
Also shoot left handed due to eye strength, sticks in the left hand, rifle on the right shoulder, utilising right hand for bins etc.
It's what you get comfortable with and used to .
 
I use the same sling, can't utilise the waist routing due to carrying a roe sack, oh and before singing stalker chirps up the size of my waistline doesn't help but using the high position its fine.
Also shoot left handed due to eye strength, sticks in the left hand, rifle on the right shoulder, utilising right hand for bins etc.
It's what you get comfortable with and used to .
Since this write up I have gotten a lot more comfortable with sticks. I've now shot 5 deer solo stalking on my little permission, and can comfortably carry my sticks in my left whilst scanning with my right.

I'm using Habroks now and I'm actually thinking of ditching the Kuiu harness for a waist pack, so that I can properly use the body strap from the sling.

If I can sort the sling, I'm golden.

Everyone says the quake claw grips really well. Maybe that would work better
 
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