Electric trailer winch + leisure battery requirements to drag fallow

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Guys
Working on finishing the new (secondhand) fallow extraction trailer, decision been made to have a electric winch on the A frame in a steel box cabled out through the end on a roller to run complete length along inside centre of trailer to pull up the carcases on a rail

i’ve got 2 12v leisure batteries on my caravan I can erm borrow - one is a bulk standard the other brand new one and heavy duty, are these ok for a winch ? And what winch is best, guessing heavy duty as it will see a few fallow does.

Any ideas on battery type and level requirements and winch size - voltage will be 12v to drag fallow does

Thinking on non stretch rope rather than cable as the main line

Any recommendations greatly appreciated as I only want to do it once

Cheers

Phil

 

[jthyttin]

If I understood correctly, you are planning to have a rail in the middle of trailer floor, and hook or something running in it? And then attach carcass to hook and drag it to trailer?

Sounds unnecessary complicated (I'd just opt for mechanical boat winch mounted in usual manner) but if you're set on that, any 2000lbs winch should work. Winch might draw something like 50A when dragging, and single drag might last a minute. Proper manufacturers include at least maximum power draw and line speed for zero and full load in their manual. But measuring the draw during actual use is the only way to get accurate numbers.

Any lead battery (sized like car battery) will provide the 50A draw and one minute pull would take less than one Amp hour. Even if the draw is 100A any battery should cope it.

When designing the winch box, remember that you need access to the free spool clutch. And I'd opt for steel rope if the rope is running inside / below the trailer floor (cheaper, more robust).

 

[75]

Without seeing photos to visualise what you're trying to achieve, this does sound overly complicated for fallow does. I'm no spring chicken, but I'd just be dragging does up the trailer ramp by hand. You could drag a half dozen does up by hand in the time it will take to unspool the cable, connect to deer and pull back on.

 

[disco_ike]

I used to run a winch on a truck and had to use a starter type battery used to high amp draw the leisure batteries just don’t have the draw. Ideally the optima red tops.
For what you need it for if you are able to I would just use a manual boat winch, if you forget to charge the battery or use all the juice you are then stuffed with no way to reel the cable in out the way etc

 

[Tim.243]

Guys
Working on finishing the new (secondhand) fallow extraction trailer, decision been made to have a electric winch on the A frame in a steel box cabled out through the end on a roller to run complete length along inside centre of trailer to pull up the carcases on a rail

i’ve got 2 12v leisure batteries on my caravan I can erm borrow - one is a bulk standard the other brand new one and heavy duty, are these ok for a winch ? And what winch is best, guessing heavy duty as it will see a few fallow does.

Any ideas on battery type and level requirements and winch size - voltage will be 12v to drag fallow does

Thinking on non stretch rope rather than cable as the main line

Any recommendations greatly appreciated as I only want to do it once

Cheers

Phil

I can see a few Deer Cart repliers coming out the woodwork Phil

 

[Greenmist]

Why add a battery, can't you use the vehicle the trailer is attached to

 

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I used to run a winch on a truck and had to use a starter type battery used to high amp draw the leisure batteries just don’t have the draw. Ideally the optima red tops.
For what you need it for if you are able to I would just use a manual boat winch, if you forget to charge the battery or use all the juice you are then stuffed with no way to reel the cable in out the way etc

I used to run a winch on a truck and had to use a starter type battery used to high amp draw the leisure batteries just don’t have the draw. Ideally the optima red tops.
For what you need it for if you are able to I would just use a manual boat winch, if you forget to charge the battery or use all the juice you are then stuffed with no way to reel the cable in out the way etc

I’ve got one hand winch on the 2 smaller trailers, one of which i will sell off when this one is road legal, if you look on the thread below which says trailer cleaning you will see the trailer, so far its had new axles and wheels, complete re wire and a good scrub up
Its got plenty of room for a fair sized secure box on the front for any tools, chainsaw, battery and winch all in the dry and secure

I’ve measured up and ordered a new cover and hooks from ivor williams supplier at Biddenden hopefully all will be ready, a fair size so will be multi use
Cheers
Phil

 

[75]

if you look on the thread below which says trailer cleaning you will see the trailer,

The best thing you could do with that to make loading deer easier is put a new, longer tailboard on it so when it's open you have a nice ramp angle rather than trying to get deer up a "step". I still think you're over thinking it all for fallow does. What do they run to around you , 35kg ish maybe? If you've got a ramp rather than a square back to the trailer then they'll slide up no probs at all. And in the fraction of the time it'll take you to deploy the winch.

 

[baguio]

A leisure or motor bike battery will easily handle the draw you're talking about for dragging fallow. I use a motorbike battery to power my 2500kg winch for dragging reds. The load is so small. I haven't tested it to tell you how many it will pull before it drains totally but I do have back up crock clips on a lead to connect to my car battery, should the battery ever go flat.
It's not a quick operation but I only got issued one spine when I was born so happy to take a couple of minutes pressing a button.
Get a winch with a hands free remote control. It will then enable you to buide the carcass around trees etc as you you pull it in.
As you can see, the whole winch can be removed and left in the boot. This keeps it out of the weather, etc.

 

[Firefly]

You can halve the draw on your battery by roving around a pulley and back to fixed point.

 

[baguio]

You can halve the draw on your battery by roving around a pulley and back to fixed point.

Which will also slow down your pull which is already very slow. The draw isn't a problem at all. A 2500kg winch that is pulling a load of less than half the body weight of the animal. Remember, you're not lifting the carcass up into the air. You're simply dragging it.

 

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You can halve the draw on your battery by roving around a pulley and back to fixed point.

Yep had that one figured out, one of the reasons for the box

 

[wytonpjs]

I'd dispense with the battery(s) and fit an Anderson connector either under the bonnet directly to the truck battery or to a point at the rear of the vehicle and have a good set of link cables. I've done this to both my last FL2 and now dS and it works well for me. The bluetooth remotes are the way forward but add a length of red ribbon or similar so you can find it in the long grass - ask me how I know (last photo this weekend)

 

[Polar Lynx]

I use spare 12 v battery with rather low Amp (20) and works well.

 

[nun_hunter]

Are you set on electric? I've got a new unused manual boat winch, 2 speed, brake and would take a decent length of Dyneema if you're interested?

 

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I used to run a winch on a truck and had to use a starter type battery used to high amp draw the leisure batteries just don’t have the draw. Ideally the optima red tops.
For what you need it for if you are able to I would just use a manual boat winch, if you forget to charge the battery or use all the juice you are then stuffed with no way to reel the cable in out the way etc

. I’ve 2 relatively new leisure/caravan batteries heavy duty type
All is being installed today if the rain stops in a weather proof alloy sheet tool box if it works on the little pulley system we are putting in as well to offload a little, going to try this, if no good it will go in my garage for goeshomers deer and it will be back to hand winch which I have for pulling the caravan on to the handstand when it get wet
Cheers
Phil

 

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Are you set on electric? I've got a new unused manual boat winch, 2 speed, brake and would take a decent length of Dyneema if you're interested?

Hi
Any idea on the price and is it postable ?? That could go on the small trailer
My brother in law lives at dial post near the deer farm, if you go by that way it could be dropped off
Cheers
Phil

 

[Bugsy]

I'd dispense with the battery(s) and fit an Anderson connector either under the bonnet directly to the truck battery or to a point at the rear of the vehicle and have a good set of link cables. I've done this to both my last FL2 and now dS and it works well for me. The bluetooth remotes are the way forward but add a length of red ribbon or similar so you can find it in the long grass - ask me how I know (last photo this weekend)

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Out of curiousity how far out will the remote connect with the winch .

 

[wytonpjs]

Out of curiousity how far out will the remote connect with the winch .

I’ve not done a distance test but in the recovery in the third photo, it was still working at the anchor point. In the last photo, I was using it off to the side and then from the driver’s seat. Both set ups use identical WinchMax remotes, the first purchased as an add on, the second built into the winch. The add on looks like these - for some reason I’m blocked from the WinchMax site so I cannot link directly to that:

WINCHMAX Wireless Winch Remote Control. 12v, Twin Handset

WINCHMAX Wireless Winch Remote Control Kit Twin Handset 12v Features Operating Range over 30m (100ft). Supplied with two handheld controllers. Sealed rubber buttons. Press and hold both buttons to power on/off. Auto shut off after 5 minutes without use to preserve battery life. Free- Fitted...

www.diy.com

It says 30m range which sounds typical for Bluetooth.

 

[David.evans]

Any good ?