Trying to find a US gun shop

[chriswjx]

Was chatting to some friends about firearm safety today and was reminded of some videos I saw more than a few years ago from a US gun shop that insisted they clear any firearms brought in for sale/repair. They had a rather large jam jar on the side which they filled with all the live rounds that came out of "cleared" guns.

Was wondering if anyone else on here had seen similar and hopefully could point me in the direction of that shop's videos? Mostly just so I can convince myself I didn't imagine seeing them and am making it all up

Cheers,
Chris

 

[UpNorthMI]

Not a video, but similar:

 

[chriswjx]

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[UpNorthMI]

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[chriswjx]

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Thanks! Works now - I think that might actually be the right shop, will have a look and see if they put any videos on it. Post has wording to the effect of what I remember!

Cheers!

 

[UpNorthMI]

Thanks! Works now - I think that might actually be the right shop, will have a look and see if they put any videos on it. Post has wording to the effect of what I remember!

Cheers!

Things are definitely different in the US, the level of gun safety and gun awareness in general is quite a bit lower or more relaxed than in the UK. Maybe it comes from the difference in culture in terms of gun ownership is a given in the US and gun ownership in the UK is much stricter and controlled, maybe even a privilege. In the UK we typically come into gun ownership through shooting clubs, game shooting etc. which have strict safety rules, in the US we can stop off and buy any type of gun on the way home as long as we pass a background check.

Its mainly the infrequent casual shooters that have a lower standard of safety, more active or serious shooters tend to have a much higher level of safety. It can get a little unnerving when clay shooting as you see so many closed actions and find yourself on the end of a shotgun muzzle as people move from stand to stand. Personally, I politely say something every time and try to help and educate all shooters.

 

[dogone]

I had a new Beretta 12 ga semiautomatic shotgun. It would not consistently reload after the first shot. I jacked the bolt a dozen times before taking in to a gun shop. He did it twice and a cartridge popped out. Gun was found defective and a full refund given. Moral of story is : **** can happen

 

[MilesW]

I recall some research from years ago where a study of police witness statements from accidental shootings clearly indicated the vast majority of victims - like 90% or more - were shot with an unloaded firearm

 

[Foxyboy43]

Last time I was there Cabella’s in Pa had a guy on the door who was there to individually check any firearms being brought into the magnificent store - a brief chat confirmed the need for such vigilance.

 

[cjm1066]

In the 1980s borrowed a BSA Ralock that's a semi auto 22 that collects the spent cases in front of the trigger guard and the magazine tube in the butt..

After perhaps 50 shots, time to give it back, racked bolt 3x (that was witnessed) dealer took it and cycled action - yes hugely embarrassing, a round had stuck in the magazine tube and couldn't be seen until it dislodged and ejected.

 

[Bowland blades]

Was chatting to some friends about firearm safety today and was reminded of some videos I saw more than a few years ago from a US gun shop that insisted they clear any firearms brought in for sale/repair. They had a rather large jam jar on the side which they filled with all the live rounds that came out of "cleared" guns.

Was wondering if anyone else on here had seen similar and hopefully could point me in the direction of that shop's videos? Mostly just so I can convince myself I didn't imagine seeing them and am making it all up

Cheers,
Chris

Shoot long enough and i expect many have found one in the mag or had one pop out the chamber of an " empty " gun ! The trick is treat them all as loaded till carefully inspected . Sh*T happens ! so expect it even if you might not have happened to you just yet
I wonder how many have lost their FAC as the FEO checks clear and its not out of a safe ? I have not only seen, live rounds come out an empty gun happen but also people being injured and one death in the UK . So start to expect it by extra checking

 

[Cootmeurer]

The USAF standard included a clearing barrel.
Procedure at the end of each shift was to
1) drop mag
2) rack slide or bolt to clear action
3) visually inspect
4 ) muzzle into barrel (angled downward and filled with sand
5) safety off
6) pull trigger
7) transfer weapon to replacement or armorer
I think the process is similar for each of the other branches

 

[chriswjx]

The USAF standard included a clearing barrel.
Procedure at the end of each shift was to
1) drop mag
2) rack slide or bolt to clear action
3) visually inspect
4 ) muzzle into barrel (angled downward and filled with sand
5) safety off
6) pull trigger
7) transfer weapon to replacement or armorer
I think the process is similar for each of the other branches

The British method is fairly similar - although if memory serves, it's encouraged to do a physical inspection as well as visual. And don't recall seeing a barrel.

From my experience, it mainly seems to happen when people forget point (1),

 

[reiver]

Was on the same trip as a man flying back from Croatia to Heathrow
With his rifle and also his semi automatic 12 bore in his gun case he placed the shotgun on the counter next to me and I could see there was a slug round in the mag tube !! Fortunately or un fortunately he didn’t show the gun to be clear to customs now that would have been a **** storm for him and security as it was x rayed at Zagreb be for flying . I told him what I saw and all he said was I thought I had lost a slug ?? So they are here in the Uk as well !!!!!

 

[JonC]

A couple of tales from over the pond.... on arrival into Baltimore, I was waiting for baggage and got talking to the chief of airport police about the 'strange things' he'd witnessed in his career. He said the list of things is long, but that he had a good one recently. A series of flights had arrived (International), and there had been the usual flurry of passengers collecting their bags, and eventually, the baggage claim area emptied. The shift cleaners came in and were doing their thing, when he was approached by one of them, saying, "there's a carboard box on carousel no.5 that I think you should see". And so, he went to look. There, on the carousel, moving slowly around all by itself, was a shoebox sized cardboard box. Its flaps were open, and the contents were visible. The officer quickly scooped it up and went to his office. The cardboard box was supposed to be on an internal flight within South Africa but instead made its way to Baltimore. Inside the open box were two Glock 9mm pistols, with magazines loaded and both pistols with rounds in the chamber. Additionally, there were ten full magazines. Another day at the office.

The second tale was from a friend in the US Army. We had arrived at a shooting competition, and he had come straight to the range from the airport (internal flight) from a camping trip with his fiancée. He was as shocked as most to find that within his hand baggage, he'd forgotten that he had his camp axe...... which apparently had not been detected by airport security.