Bomag
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You can get cannabis on prescription with certain conditions.
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shakey jake
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That i did not know, alot of prescriptions must be getting handed out
Do you mean products containing the active ingredients of cannabis, rather than actual cannabis?
Mr Tree
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Britains is the largest exporter of medical grade cannabis in the world, grown at a sugar beet factory near you Bo, hundreds of acres under glass, that used to grow tomatoes. The husband of the former governments "Drug Tsar" was awarded the extremely lucrative contract. Meanwhile, on the ground, there are many mothers out there who claim with good reason, that their children who suffer from violent schizophrenic fits can be alleviated by the administration of cannabis, when other chemical treatments have failed. But they are breaking the law, imposed on them by the wife of the man who can grow the stuff. Its bonkers, maybe after many years of research, the government will finally find this out & be able to supply the NHS with an incredibly expensive cannabis. The alternative should be to simply give them a seed, which they could grow a plant in their garden for nothing. Hmm I wonder what route they will take. BTW, Cartels is a word that spring to mind, eliminate the competition, control the means of production, & fix the price. Genius.
After I stopped taking amitriptyline and getting panic attacks, I was told about Arnica. I had been taking prescription amitriptyline for about 7 months and the pain from advanced osteoarthritis in my knee had gone. Stopping it abruptly led to the panic attacks because I didn't know it was an antidepressant that works as a painkiller at low-dose.
I have been rubbing in Arnica Gel ever since, and it has tranformed my mobility. It took a little longer to work on my shoulder, but it worked first day on my knee.
There are Arnica tablets that should only be taken under medical supervision because it is easy the fataly overdose.
Cannabis oil has got all sorts of alleged medical uses, but I have never tried it.
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I have been rubbing in Arnica Gel ever since, and it has tranformed my mobility. It took a little longer to work on my shoulder, but it worked first day on my knee.
There are Arnica tablets that should only be taken under medical supervision because it is easy the fataly overdose.
Cannabis oil has got all sorts of alleged medical uses, but I have never tried it.
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Norfolk Horn
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I new a woman years ago who use to get some weed off one of the guys in the pub, not for herself but for her brother who had MS.
Now I've only ever taken prescription drugs or alcohol and that's only in beer 90% of the time plus a bit of wine and I don't like spirits and I've never smoked.p
I must admit that I did consider weed at one time as the medication I was being give for my FM/ME really wasn't working that well and the side effects just wasn't worth what relief I was getting. Fortunately I see a pain consultant for a trapped nerve and as it happens she also specialised in FM/ ME and she changed my meds and while they are not perfect ( what is in this life) they do a much better job so I never had to go to get some weed to try.
Now I've only ever taken prescription drugs or alcohol and that's only in beer 90% of the time plus a bit of wine and I don't like spirits and I've never smoked.p
I must admit that I did consider weed at one time as the medication I was being give for my FM/ME really wasn't working that well and the side effects just wasn't worth what relief I was getting. Fortunately I see a pain consultant for a trapped nerve and as it happens she also specialised in FM/ ME and she changed my meds and while they are not perfect ( what is in this life) they do a much better job so I never had to go to get some weed to try.
Mr Tree
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Arnica is wonderful stuff, it makes you wonder how many plants out there may contain the cure for a variety of ailments. A young girl I know is undergoing chemotherapy, she was telling me that one of the injections contains a refinement of the Yew tree. Small wonder that our distant ancestors held this plant in such high regard, the Druids would harvest it using a golden sickle. She went on to tell me that the Chemo caused a horrid pain in her legs, hot baths, anti inflamatories, ibuprofen paracetamol didn't touch the sides, the only thing that helped was when her mother in desperation made her some cannabis cookies. Maybe an intelligent discussion on the use of cannabis for medical reasons is long overdue, who am I to judge someone that has cancer, or a child that is causing her mother so much distress she needs to break the law.After I stopped taking amitriptyline and getting panic attacks, I was told about Arnica. I had been taking prescription amitriptyline for about 7 months and the pain from advanced osteoarthritis in my knee had gone. Stopping it abruptly led to the panic attacks because I didn't know it was an antidepressant that works as a painkiller at low-dose.
I have been rubbing in Arnica Gel ever since, and it has tranformed my mobility. It took a little longer to work on my shoulder, but it worked first day on my knee.
There are Arnica tablets that should only be taken under medical supervision because it is easy the fataly overdose.
Cannabis oil has got all sorts of alleged medical uses, but I have never tried it.
Rick Simpson Oil (RSO) for Cancer: Does It Work?
Learn what the evidence shows about treating cancer with Rick Simpson Oil (RSO), an oil made from the flowers of the cannabis (marijuana) plant.
I wonder whether the main thing here is about getting the right dose of the right stuff for the right indication?
There are plenty of other plant-derived medicines in use (e.g. morphine, digoxin, vinca alkaloids etc), but you do have to get the dose right: too low, it doesn't work, too high and you get poisoned.
So, given that there are numerous pharmacologically-active chemicals produced by the plant in concentrations and proportions which will vary even within different parts of the same plant - let alone between plants, one can perhaps see that there's a need to extract and standardise so that known chemicals can be tested, and subsequently safe and effective medicines can be marketed.
Mr Tree
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Im no expert, but there is a world of difference between Morphine & a pot plant. The lethal dose of Hashish is about 1 kilo, dropped directly on top of your head from a multi storey car park.
Nor am I - but I do have a bit of an idea that I'm writing about.
It wasn't fatal poisoning I had in mind, really. More, the problems which result when you give more of something than is necessary to do what is intended: so, we could give a certain dose of morphine twice a day, and someone's pain might be well-managed, and they'd be able to go about their daily business.
If we gave them unknown doses, they might vary between being in pain and being too drowsy to do very much. The latter is effectively poisoning - and is avoided by using standardised products with known ingredients.
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Bo Diddley
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Yes, I'm aware of the large scale cannabis production close to me.
It's a crazy world, as soon as they see a business opportunity suddenly there is information available that may support their case to legalise medicinal herbs.
On the flip side of cannabis helping alleviate Schizophrenia, my sister is certain that smoking cannabis led to her daughter developing Schizophrenia.
I had a tenant for several years who is a cannabis guru.. he could heal the world if he could grow enough, so I have seen both sides of the coin.
My best friend and I led very similar lives in villages only a few miles apart, both joiners by trade although he was much better than me, the difference was that I have only been stoned a handful of times, he was on it for years, it had a negative impact on his life but he couldn't see it, two serious motorcycle accidents, the last one killed him, the second from last put him in hospital for 16 weeks, his aorta artery ripped out of his heart, and a drug test when he and his wife tried to get custody of their granddaughter... I still haven't forgiven him for dying...
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Mr Tree
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Totally agree, I am sure there are help groups out there that could advise. Refinement of a simple plant by big Pharma is also another problem, & we are talking about mega bucks, look at the price of simple drugs used everyday by the NHS, & in a lot of cases paid for by the tazpayer. It is possible to kill yourself by taking too many paracetamol, easily available anywhere.
Cannabis is a long way off being a simple plant: the pharmacologically-active substances in it are numerous, powerful and not terribly-well understood. The pharma companies would point out that it's not just refining/standardising the products, but funding decent research to find out what these various chemicals are useful for, and in what doses. I've never been an apologist for the less-savoury aspects of Big Pharma's dealings - but an occasional dose of realism can prevent the baby being thrown out with the bathwater.
The NHS pays a lot of money for expensive medicines, and markedly less for cheap ones. That's business, I guess. And yes, that money comes from tax and NI - but that's state socialism for you!
I don't understand the point about paracetamol.
The surgeons seemed surprised at the progress my broken leg bones had made in two weeks after I started using Comfrey Oil, together with natural glucosamine derived from New Zealand Green-lipped Mussel. The Old English name for Comfrey is 'Knit-bone' ! I didn't tell them what I was using!
Bomag
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I mean cannabis, the flower. It's available on the NHS for a few people with selective conditions, but the majority of prescriptions are private ones.
Bomag
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Very few, opiates are the doctors preferred drug.
Rasputin
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What you on about the regulated industry is generating billions in tax dollars globally and way more than just growing a few plants.
Might as well legalise it and tax it. Get some societal good out of it.
Hereford
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Around 3 years ago, I was diagnosed with early onset arthritis in the lower part of my spine - chronic, debilitating pain at times. The consultant rheumatologist prescribed two ‘p’s - paracetamol and Pilates.
I watched my father for many of his latter years persevere with pain killers against awful joint pain, but he would always find the limit of their effectiveness soon enough - even so he would keep popping them regardless but they were probably doing more harm than good by then.
I decided that I wasn’t going to go down that route - unless desperate and a lot older than I am now - and I didn’t also have the time or inclination to attend Pilates round here (personal choice).
I did get some relief from taking bovine collagen peptide powder, although it wasn’t perfect. Then at the beginning of this year I took some advice from a nurse practitioner friend who recommended I try vitamin B12 injections for tiredness and brain-fog - the side affect has been startling - it was like turning the pain off like a light switch - I am not kidding. There is some anecdotal evidence on the internet that B12 helps against standard arthritic pain (not spondylising) but it’s not well researched.
I’m not saying it will work for you, but it has been the magic bullet for me (pray hope it continues) - one injection every month - you can’t overdo it - you can’t get addicted to it and it can’t do you any harm.
Hope that’s helps
Hereford
