The Pulsar Krypot is a compromise but I am very happy with mine and I have the series 1 the series 2 is more compact and better performance. I limit my self to 120-150 max and provided you are sensible they do a good job and as soon as the light is up you just in lip it. I bought the aftermarket Smartclip adaptor much better than the Pulsar oneThanks nothing like muddying the waterhave you or anyone on here used a clip on
Not a bad idea
Advice on Day Night vision scopes for a 270 rifle
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Never had a problem with Zero shift, I did buy the Smartclip adaptor much better than the Pulsar one and fits much neater
@ivorgun2 - drop me a PM with your mobile number & I’ll send you a couple of clips taken on my Alpex 4K last weekend.
Like you we have a lot of fallow that are not easy to get to grips with & we struggled with numbers last winter so this summer I bought an Alpex 4K LRF. My go to rifle till now has been a 308 with a Diavari 6-24x56 ASV elevation turret & a #60 reticle but for the first weekend of the doe season I left that in the cabinet & took my 6.5x47 with the Alpex on - after initially struggling to use the correct button for the LRF it soon became second nature & with the rifle zeroed at 100 yards I’ve taken to pinging something at 200 yards so I have two aiming marks for flexibility & can ping anything further away if I need to.
Last weekend I genuinely believe there were deer I wouldn’t have been able to shoot with the Diavari due to low light. Last two evenings I’ve taken the 308 out & last night could see deer at last light in the bingos but wasn’t able to shoot. Tonight I had a lone fallow doe come out 47 mins after sunset, I hesitated but with the red dot on I was just about able to take a shot using an ‘area aim’. With the Alpex it would have been a doddle.
Before sunset the picture is just a poor digital image compared to good glass, but if you’re using it to cull deer & aren’t a glass snob, then for doe season it’s the Alpex all day (and night - see what I did there
) for me.The proper glass will go back on for when the clocks go forward.
It’s all a compromise and a messy one at that.
One thing is sure, whatever you buy needs to do the job as it will be worthless in 5 years.
The digital will ace low light performance but it will require adjustment as light changes.
You won’t be able to dial for elevation and the reticles on most are very poor for increase range
It will mount higher and probably need a rail
Base mag will be low, we no longer shoot deer with 4x32s but your digital will be around that. When you increase mag pixelation gets bad
Like menus - you’d better!!! Getting dark and want to turn reticle down, get scrolling
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The thermal clip sounds great but a thermal image is akin to a cartoon image. Will you actually enjoy shooting a white or black cartoon deer image?
One thing is sure, whatever you buy needs to do the job as it will be worthless in 5 years.
The digital will ace low light performance but it will require adjustment as light changes.
You won’t be able to dial for elevation and the reticles on most are very poor for increase range
It will mount higher and probably need a rail
Base mag will be low, we no longer shoot deer with 4x32s but your digital will be around that. When you increase mag pixelation gets bad
Like menus - you’d better!!! Getting dark and want to turn reticle down, get scrolling
.The thermal clip sounds great but a thermal image is akin to a cartoon image. Will you actually enjoy shooting a white or black cartoon deer image?
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Have you actually got one?It’s all a compromise and a messy one at that.
One thing is sure, whatever you buy needs to do the job as it will be worthless in 5 years.
The digital will ace low light performance but it will require adjustment as light changes.
You won’t be able to dial for elevation and the reticles on most are very poor for increase range
It will mount higher and probably need a rail
Base mag will be low, we no longer shoot deer with 4x32s but your digital will be around that. When you increase mag pixelation gets bad
Like menus - you’d better!!!
I’m new to the Alpex but sorry to say I just can’t agree with most of what you’ve said.
OK, in 5 years time the technology will undoubtedly have advanced but why, provided it’s still working I grant you, will todays scope be worthless? - might not be able to sell it for much but there’s more to worth than money, it’s value to me will be whether I can still shoot deer in light conditions that’d prevent me shooting them with a normal scope.
No need to adjust the Alpex for light changes, it does it automatically if you select that function in the menu. OK, it has an ‘aperture’ than can be closed down manually for daylight use but that’s not exactly difficult to do.
With the LRF function there’s no need to dial for elevation - that’s actually been a real benefit to me which is far more useful than I’d anticipated, so don’t know what you’re on about there.
Yes, base mag is low - 3.5x to be precise, but I’ve shot deer with the Alpex at that magnification with no drama. Personally I leave it at 7x, which is very similar to the 8x I leave the Diavari at. If I need more mag I turn it up, easy.
Yes, when you wind it up to 28x it does pixelate but that’s to be expected - wind the Diavari up to 24x in the low light of last hour & you’ll struggle to see through that too!
As for the mount being higher & probably needing a rail, sorry, that’s just carp - my Alpex sits in the same medium height optilocks the Diavari sits in.
nun_hunter
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You've never used an Arken Zulus then? Pretty much every "negative" you listed there I found doesn't apply at all, other than using a picatinny rail, but all my rifles have picatinny rails so I can't see that being a problem.It’s all a compromise and a messy one at that.
One thing is sure, whatever you buy needs to do the job as it will be worthless in 5 years.
The digital will ace low light performance but it will require adjustment as light changes.
You won’t be able to dial for elevation and the reticles on most are very poor for increase range
It will mount higher and probably need a rail
Base mag will be low, we no longer shoot deer with 4x32s but your digital will be around that. When you increase mag pixelation gets bad
Like menus - you’d better!!! Getting dark and want to turn reticle down, get scrolling
The thermal clip sounds great but a thermal image is akin to a cartoon image. Will you actually enjoy shooting a white or black cartoon deer image?
If it's good enough to shoot what you want now, it will still be good enough to do the same job in 5 years timeIt’s all a compromise and a messy one at that.
One thing is sure, whatever you buy needs to do the job as it will be worthless in 5 years.
The digital will ace low light performance but it will require adjustment as light changes.
You won’t be able to dial for elevation and the reticles on most are very poor for increase range
It will mount higher and probably need a rail
Base mag will be low, we no longer shoot deer with 4x32s but your digital will be around that. When you increase mag pixelation gets bad
Like menus - you’d better!!! Getting dark and want to turn reticle down, get scrolling
The thermal clip sounds great but a thermal image is akin to a cartoon image. Will you actually enjoy shooting a white or black cartoon deer image?
On board laser rangefinders with ballistic calculators mean you never have to worry about holding over or dialling in - the scope will either provide a holdover mark or move the reticle such the centre of the reticle is the point of aim
Base mags of anywhere between x3.5 and 7 are easily available and with digital zoom, excellent image quality up to x20 magnification is not unusual
Yes, to get the best out of a digital scope you need to learn to use the menus - but is that such a problem (unless you are a complete technophobe)
The bottom line is that decent glass scopes will always give a more detailed image than the best digital scopes - when there is enough light
In low light and darkness digital wins every time and although the daylight image on the digital scope is not as good as a glass scope, it has now reached the point where it is good enough to replace glass scopes for most hunting applications (but not for long range target work)
The ability of some of the current crop of digital scopes to do everything that most hunters actually need is forcing top end glass scope manufacturers to fit their products with electronic "toys" to keep sales going and allow them to sell those products at ridiculously high prices but frequently not covering the electronic parts of those products with the same warranty as the glass and mechanical parts of the product
Cheers
Bruce
ThanksLike you we have a lot of fallow that are not easy to get to grips with & we struggled with numbers last winter so this summer I bought an Alpex 4K LRF. My go to rifle till now has been a 308 with a Diavari 6-24x56 ASV elevation turret & a #60 reticle but for the first weekend of the doe season I left that in the cabinet & took my 6.5x47 with the Alpex on - after initially struggling to use the correct button for the LRF it soon became second nature & with the rifle zeroed at 100 yards I’ve taken to pinging something at 200 yards so I have two aiming marks for flexibility & can ping anything further away if I need to.
Last weekend I genuinely believe there were deer I wouldn’t have been able to shoot with the Diavari due to low light. Last two evenings I’ve taken the 308 out & last night could see deer at last light in the bingos but wasn’t able to shoot. Tonight I had a lone fallow doe come out 47 mins after sunset, I hesitated but with the red dot on I was just about able to take a shot using an ‘area aim’. With the Alpex it would have been a doddle.
Before sunset the picture is just a poor digital image compared to good glass, but if you’re using it to cull deer & aren’t a glass snob, then for doe season it’s the Alpex all day (and night - see what I did there
The proper glass will go back on for when the clocks go forward.
Thanks LadLike you we have a lot of fallow that are not easy to get to grips with & we struggled with numbers last winter so this summer I bought an Alpex 4K LRF. My go to rifle till now has been a 308 with a Diavari 6-24x56 ASV elevation turret & a #60 reticle but for the first weekend of the doe season I left that in the cabinet & took my 6.5x47 with the Alpex on - after initially struggling to use the correct button for the LRF it soon became second nature & with the rifle zeroed at 100 yards I’ve taken to pinging something at 200 yards so I have two aiming marks for flexibility & can ping anything further away if I need to.
Last weekend I genuinely believe there were deer I wouldn’t have been able to shoot with the Diavari due to low light. Last two evenings I’ve taken the 308 out & last night could see deer at last light in the bingos but wasn’t able to shoot. Tonight I had a lone fallow doe come out 47 mins after sunset, I hesitated but with the red dot on I was just about able to take a shot using an ‘area aim’. With the Alpex it would have been a doddle.
Before sunset the picture is just a poor digital image compared to good glass, but if you’re using it to cull deer & aren’t a glass snob, then for doe season it’s the Alpex all day (and night - see what I did there
The proper glass will go back on for when the clocks go forward.
The Fallow are very hard work in forestry, definitely not a glass snob
just like you I need more on the ground to catch up.Cheers
the prowler
Well-Known Member
If you like optical scopes. Starlight longbow is very good. And makes excellent nv
I have to eat some humble pie.It’s all a compromise and a messy one at that.
One thing is sure, whatever you buy needs to do the job as it will be worthless in 5 years.
The digital will ace low light performance but it will require adjustment as light changes.
You won’t be able to dial for elevation and the reticles on most are very poor for increase range
It will mount higher and probably need a rail
Base mag will be low, we no longer shoot deer with 4x32s but your digital will be around that. When you increase mag pixelation gets bad
Like menus - you’d better!!! Getting dark and want to turn reticle down, get scrolling
The thermal clip sounds great but a thermal image is akin to a cartoon image. Will you actually enjoy shooting a white or black cartoon deer image?
1. My newly purchased Alpex 4K does indeed sit in the same mounts my 6-24 Zeiss did
2. I can work the menu
3. I zeroed it in the dark in 10 shots (being a cheapskate and using PPU to start delayed things)
I have to unlearn 27years of successful simplicity
Good on you
It’s very capable BUT absolute precision is not so easy/possible, the dimmest setting is too bright at last light, I find the reticle either too fine or too thick and I’m not sure I actually like itGood on you
The wheels turn slowly for me but in truth the above is not old fogiism but real points
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