What was the problem with suspended gralloch out of interest?My game dealer has got a lot stricter, and too be honest seeing what I have in the past hanging in the chiller has been a disgrace.
So, he requested no suspended gralloch (although some still do, as do I on occasion) legs and head off back at the larder, and also the 'back end', no backside out and they get rejected, and no payment.
He was having his FSA inspection last year, I rocked up with 3 reds, the inspector watched me as I did the above, all good, although I was a little nervous.
But, he is still only paying £1/kg
More is coming in than he can push on, his freezers are almost full, and he has dropped his price to the retailers, and supplies tons to the country food trust.
Sorry to say, at the end of the day venison is an acquired taste, zero to do with how the public perceive us 'hunters'
The farmers still want them culled, some are telling me to drag them into the woods to rot.
It will never happen, but if the government want them reduced, they need to start paying a bounty for it.
By the way, as a I guide I can assure anyone that thinks I keep them for the clients is total tosh, apart from weekends I'm out every day, Friday I have organised a cull day, speaking for myself if it's brown its down. Without paying clients I couldn't make a modest, very modest profit.
But don't worry. the British Quality Wild Venison assurance scheme will rectify all of this
Daily Mail - Too many wild deer are roaming England's forests. Can promoting venison to consumers help?
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devon deer stalker
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In my eyes absolutely nothing, in the game dealers eyes, opens up the carcass to increased contamination
There’s nothing wrong with it if that’s either the way you were taught or your way of stopping contamination from anything on the ground
but gralloching a deer on the ground on its side slightly uphill ( if you can ) so that everything can be pulled out cleanly and if done properly is perfectly acceptable .. everybody to there own ..
big ears
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Issue I have with that is I’ve been involved with surgical training for years. Practical skills like carefully dealing with a dead deer cannot be assessed on one occasion without allowing some with bad practice through. It feels like a race to the bottom to find the organisation running the course rather than to assess the individuals are properly trained.
Just my opinion
Is there any evidence to suggest that that standard of carcasses submitted to AGHEs has declined since the DSC2 was reduced to just one witnessed stalk?
Personally, I think AGHEs should be a lot firmer about turning away consignments that aren't up to scratch. It's those poor ones that are holding the price down for everyone (which is probably why the game dealers continue to accept them).
Is it because they don't like the rib cage split?
big ears
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I doubt anyone has collected enough data to prove it one way or the other it just becomes anecdotal.
Stands to reason that if you train people poorly and make the bar easier to get over standards fall.
That is the case in all other forms of practical skills training, I doubt if gralloching a deer is exempt to that.
You want people trained to produce quality carcasses to the GD, I’m saying make the training more arduous to achieve the quality you desire.
Seems we are arguing the same thing.
big ears
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I think this is the issue we all should hold too. AGHEs saying they are full which is why they can pay low rates, well then surely they can be a bit more choosy and ask for premium carcass and pay a bit more for that?
I know I’ve mentioned training as an issue but another way to drive up standards is this.
