Ever wondered where a pass-through bullet goes….
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Len the dog
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Nickb
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Extraordinary footage with astonishing thermal.
Don't worry Tim says its OK if you're 3 yards to the left
Foxyboy43
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Deermanagement
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Already posted on a “back stop” post. There’ll probably be the same sort of following on this post 
Comments from the original YouTube video include the possibility of tracers being used and it was this component that is seen exiting at some extreme angle. I’m dubious about that and makes you think about what is a “safe shot” particularly with monolithic or hunting type controlled expansion lead core.
Only witnessed one deviating exit, on a stag where I could view on video the stoke on a sloping field behind the animal. On this occasion I’d guess 10 degree of deviation from a straight line but never noticed anything like this on the carcass to suggest anything other than a straight line. There will have been many more, possibly 100’s that would have performed similarly.
The first time a colleague shot a roe buck with copper TTSX, resulted in a track that went behind the shoulder of an apparently broadside roe buck, and exited out of the front of the chest. I was lucky enough to find that animal sone 300yds distance in a conifer block, still well alive until finished off. Seeing this video substantiates his claim that it was near broadside.
Anti head shooting I’ve always been, however I seem to shoot around 70% neck and would consider varmint bullets for head and neck under many UK circumstances
Comments from the original YouTube video include the possibility of tracers being used and it was this component that is seen exiting at some extreme angle. I’m dubious about that and makes you think about what is a “safe shot” particularly with monolithic or hunting type controlled expansion lead core.
Only witnessed one deviating exit, on a stag where I could view on video the stoke on a sloping field behind the animal. On this occasion I’d guess 10 degree of deviation from a straight line but never noticed anything like this on the carcass to suggest anything other than a straight line. There will have been many more, possibly 100’s that would have performed similarly.
The first time a colleague shot a roe buck with copper TTSX, resulted in a track that went behind the shoulder of an apparently broadside roe buck, and exited out of the front of the chest. I was lucky enough to find that animal sone 300yds distance in a conifer block, still well alive until finished off. Seeing this video substantiates his claim that it was near broadside.
Anti head shooting I’ve always been, however I seem to shoot around 70% neck and would consider varmint bullets for head and neck under many UK circumstances
I've never known a varmint bullet in the neck not to do a good job. However, I've never had a solid bullet take anything but a direct track through a deer. I only shoot roe and smaller regularly, though.
It should indeed, but bullets do strange things and nothing is guaranteed.
Watch the bullet in the video, you could have a perfect backstop behind that coyote and the bullet wouldn’t have gone into it.
Foxyboy43
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I got it buddy, even if others didn’t….That is kinda my point having seen a few deflections in my time….
Some of those shots didn’t have a back stop though and that’s my point … Poor shooting in my opinion
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I understand the point that the OP is making but the intent of a backstop was non existent … that’s my point… it’s also being posted to for the world to see, come on
It’s in the US, they have different gun laws and different ideas on back stop, come on….I understand the point that the OP is making but the intent of a backstop was non existent … that’s my point… it’s also being posted to for the world to see, come on
Deermanagement
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the video could suggest that the use of a back stop is only reliable to catch a bullet after a clear miss .
On the evidence of the video, any contact with bullets that to a degree hold together, is in the lap of the gods when it comes to residual energy and direction
.On the evidence of the video, any contact with bullets that to a degree hold together, is in the lap of the gods when it comes to residual energy and direction
I hear you, but with no back stop there was no precaution or intention of any safety or consideration in mind irrespective of what has happened thereafter.the video could suggest that the use of a back stop is only reliable to catch a bullet after a clear miss
On the evidence of the video, any contact with bullets that to a degree hold together, is in the lap of the gods when it comes to residual energy and
Let’s not try to advocate what’s happening or rather isn’t happening here…
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Deermanagement
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Don't think I put it well enough....... the video shows that even if a "suitable" backstop was available behind some of these shots, it highlights that even this can be highly inadequate. It does show people that no matter how safe they behave, there is always a chance of something going wrong and as I've suggested, those who use fragmenting bullets can always say their methods are safer with like for like shots. I'm fortunate to have access to good areas without footpaths and very, very rarely see anyone in these areas. I also have footpaths elswhere, like most others, but should I be varying my bullets and shot placement to take this into account? I never have before but I am giving it a bit of consideration.
I had a client out last February and I had to say on maybe 6 or 8 occasions that he could not take a shot at a Roe in amongst a group of 8, as there was a footpath behind the hedge that was behind the group on relatively flat ground. I did get fed up of saying it and I'm sure there are plenty that would have taken the shot even knowing this
I'll keep the link and show anyone who thinks differently, the possible path of an exited bullet 
However, don't get me wrong, but if only 100% "safe" shots according to this evidence were taken, there would be higher venison prices, as very few deer would be shot and there'd be deer in everyone's garden
Smellydog
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That's what bedroom windows are for
kenbro
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A back stop on a range I use is about 30 metres of steep hillside high.
Range inspectors want a canopy over the target area to stop (What they call) pop overs.
These rounds in theory could bounce over from the sand backstop and hit someone on the other side of the hill.
Kb.
Range inspectors want a canopy over the target area to stop (What they call) pop overs.
These rounds in theory could bounce over from the sand backstop and hit someone on the other side of the hill.
Kb.
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