Custom Knifes - what is a custom knife?

What are the advantage of a custom knife spending £200+ when a cheap opinel £10 knife will do the same job , easy to sharpen , if you lose it not going to cost fortune to replace it or are they for show ?

I love an opinel for a picnic, would not personally be my choice for processing large quantities Of deer..
pic from when the @Stuart Mitchell p120 was under development
 

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self therein the quality would be handmade and hopefully better than that of a mass produced item i.e. the Spyderco
Not wishing to belittle any of the craftsmen on here that supply very individual knives, which I would recognise are artisans.

However tbf to spyderco, some of their blades are finished to a high standard even those out of tichan Taiwan. I have around a dozen of them and fit and finish is remarkably good for a “mass produced” knife. All have been sharp and excellent grinds out of the box. Although the “flash batch“ knives are not strictly what I would call “mass produced” as limited in quantity to the hundreds.

But yes a “custom made” one would expect better than you received.
 
I had a bit spare cash recently and wanted to buy a new knife, I’ve been coveting a Spyderco Bill Moran for sometime. Anyway I ended up purchasing a custom knife on Instagram. I thought the seller was a custom knife “maker” as in a chap was actually making these things himself therein the quality would be handmade and hopefully better than that of a mass produced item i.e. the Spyderco. It was my preferred option as buying handmade items in the UK has massive economic benefits! I’m not spending loads of money but my wee part to play I try to spend wisely.

The knife I bought is stunning but it wasn’t sharp and the edge was not straight. Sharpening a knife is one thing I can actually do but even I couldn’t get this thing sharp! I posted online about it and loads of folk said these custom knifes are possibly being imported as three retailers are selling similar knifes with different logos on them, the prices vary £100 between retailers, essentially I paid £180 which is way more than the spyderco!

The seller offered to sharpen the knife for me, from what’s said online they are allegedly an importer and retailer rather than a manufacturer so I sent this knife to a custom knife “maker” who flat ground it to get a straight edge and sharpened it. Essentially I feel a bit stupid as I reread all the media and nothing claims from the company to be a custom knife “maker” only the knifes are custom! There seems to be loads of negative reviews about the quality of these products which is disappointing as people are spending their hard earned cash on them and still continue to do so!

When is a custom knife a custom knife?

Spyderco get knifes made for them all over the world, I suppose they aren’t custom? These UK retailers if they are buying handmade knifes abroad and selling them here are they custom? If that’s the case is it right or wrong to call them that?

I was so down in the dumps with the situation I bought a Stuart Mitchell P90 from here, that thing is perfect and is definitely custom! We can see that a man called Stuart in Sheffield does actually make them and the quality speaks for itself! But these other knifes if they are imported, are they custom?

When is a custom knife a custom knife?
I recently ordered one from the same maker, whilst I wasn’t happy with the quality of the product, I must give him his due with regards to how he handled it.

He offered me a full refund if I send
It back to him. His communication was good and fair. The knife is currently on it was back to him. Will update once I have received the refund.

I think I was naive as to the cost of a true custom knife (no fault of this particular chap).
 
Custom to my mind is something that is unique specifically made to the customers requirements and measurements.

Knives are a very old piece of equipment that has been made and used over the centuries/ millennia. Most of us could take a piece of steel and grind out a knife and put a handle on it. It would be sharp enough to cut but………

The real skill is choosing, forging, making the right blade material, making into the right shape and the heat treating it so that it can be sharpened and maintain a good edge.

But most importantly it has to balance and fit the user properly. Like any tool or machine there is some innate, unquantifiable properties that make a tool part of you, or just a cumbersome implement. A knife is no different. Personally whenever I buy a tool I want to handle / feel it before I buy. Internet buying doesn’t allow this.

In Edinburgh we know have a very good speciality cooks knife shop. They only sell top end hand built knives - mostly catering to professionals. My daughter treated herself to a beautiful Japanese made knife the other day. It is a thing of utter beauty and wickedly sharp. But for me it is far too petite, I have long hands, but it fits her perfectly. But the shop owner made her try lots of knives until she found the right one.

My challenge with a stalking knife, is that they take a lot of abuse - wet, blood, bone etc etc. I would love a really good knife, but at the moment I do find the Mora Companion just works for me.
 
Funnily enough my lad has bought some of these off Facebook. I spent an evening sharpening two marked up JN and another of his knives. I read the FB page yet couldn't see anything that actually said they made the knives. They do have quite a clever marketing strategy, with the "auction" sales. Seem to sell their knives.
Going Stalking with my lad's on Saturday (hopefully the weather will play ball this time. two trips cancelled so far) somewhere in Shropshire iirc. So fingers crossed we'll find out if they'll hold an edge.
He doesn’t make the knives himself they are made in Pakistan ( or similar country ) have seen lots of bad posts about his knives lately where they can’t even cut paper. There is even a video of a guy running the blade across his hand to show how dull it is.

Marketing strategy is clever as they fetch around £200 a knife and cost approx 1/4 of that to be made and shipped to the UK
 
He doesn’t make the knives himself they are made in Pakistan ( or similar country ) have seen lots of bad posts about his knives lately where they can’t even cut paper. There is even a video of a guy running the blade across his hand to show how dull it is.

Marketing strategy is clever as they fetch around £200 a knife and cost approx 1/4 of that to be made and shipped to the UK
Definitely, carefully worded FB page the idea you're getting something at a good price.
To be fair once sharpened they seem ok, good value that's yet to be seen. My lad seems happy enough with what he got for the money.
 
Custom to my mind is something that is unique specifically made to the customers requirements and measurements.

Knives are a very old piece of equipment that has been made and used over the centuries/ millennia. Most of us could take a piece of steel and grind out a knife and put a handle on it. It would be sharp enough to cut but………

The real skill is choosing, forging, making the right blade material, making into the right shape and the heat treating it so that it can be sharpened and maintain a good edge.

But most importantly it has to balance and fit the user properly. Like any tool or machine there is some innate, unquantifiable properties that make a tool part of you, or just a cumbersome implement. A knife is no different. Personally whenever I buy a tool I want to handle / feel it before I buy. Internet buying doesn’t allow this.

In Edinburgh we know have a very good speciality cooks knife shop. They only sell top end hand built knives - mostly catering to professionals. My daughter treated herself to a beautiful Japanese made knife the other day. It is a thing of utter beauty and wickedly sharp. But for me it is far too petite, I have long hands, but it fits her perfectly. But the shop owner made her try lots of knives until she found the right one.

My challenge with a stalking knife, is that they take a lot of abuse - wet, blood, bone etc etc. I would love a really good knife, but at the moment I do find the Mora Companion just works for me.
What’s the shop In Edinburgh? Might pay them a visit next time I’m in. Thanks
 
Both copies or at best an 'interpretation' of a recognised knife design. One is factory produced and the other from a well-known UK Knife Maker:
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Loveless pattern knives are works of art. His eye for detail was highly refined over the years. But to be fair, Loveless called himself a "bench maker" not a custom maker, because he gave customers very little input into the knives he made. For example, in an interview he mentions how people ask for different coloured liners, but he tells them "no, Loveless knives come with red liners".
 
Loveless pattern knives are works of art. His eye for detail was highly refined over the years. But to be fair, Loveless called himself a "bench maker" not a custom maker, because he gave customers very little input into the knives he made. For example, in an interview he mentions how people ask for different coloured liners, but he tells them "no, Loveless knives come with red liners".
The got that be right on this Lonewolf integral copy:
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Have to say Johnny, I mind seeing a post from someone else on one of the Facebook groups saying that they were sending off a JN knife for steel testing.

Can't find the post now though! Was wondering if you were in contact with the chap and could share the results?
 
Some great knives there. When I wanted a lifetime stalking knife I decided to buy a quality blank and shape the handle myself, it took a lot of time doing so by hand with diamond files. I then picked out a pair of stabilised birch scales and mosaic pins and put it all together before shaping the handle to my hand. The blade was the Fällkniven F1 in Japanese laminated VG10. I've had it a gereat many years now and love it, it's a little thicker than most stalking knives as it is essentially a survival knife for the Swedish air force so it is tough enough to baton firewood with.
 

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What is a custom knife ?, to me it does not have to be made to your specifications, although it has to feel right in your hand, made from scratch by the same person( obviously not the steel) . It needs to be made for a purpose I.e bush craft, filleting, etc or even just looks.
 
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