Used Anschutz mod. 1415-1416 , 22 lr - decent option for plinking ?

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Hello everyone, i recent spotted this little thing (see pic). It's an Anschutz 1415-1416 i believe. If the condition is good, would this be a good option for plinking/training, and maybe also getting a little critter once in a while? Or should i look at other brands and models ? if so suggestions are very velcome

I do have a better scope to put on it, should i acquire it ,)

 

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[old keeper]

As a general rule, if it's Anschutz, it's good!

 

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As a general rule, if it's Anschutz, it's good!

Well, that's an easy rule to remember Thanks for the input, buddy

 

[waggy 1]

That was my first.22lr and it shot absolutely brilliant and accounted for rabbit’s into the 1000’s

 

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That was my first.22lr and it shot absolutely brilliant and accounted for rabbit’s into the 1000’s

Nice to know waggy1, thanks

I have no idea how many shots this one has already taken though. I guess ill have to check the bore

 

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Update: Just agreed with the current owner to go have a look at the rifle next week.

 

[Andy Mauthe]

Update: Just agreed with the current owner to go have a look at the rifle next week.

If the asking price is fair and the rifle is in good mechanical condition, buy it. I recently bought a used 1416 myself. I was looking for a left handed 22 and the Anschutz came up online for a very fair price and it looked very good in the pictures. So I bought it sight unseen. Good luck! Here’s the one I bought.

 

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If the asking price is fair and the rifle is in good mechanical condition, buy it. I recently bought a used 1416 myself. I was looking for a left handed 22 and the Anschutz came up online for a very fair price and it looked very good in the pictures. So I bought it sight unseen. Good luck! Here’s the one I bought.

That looks nice mate! May i ask what you'd consider a fair price ?

PS: How's the trigger?

 

[Greener Jim]

Lovely little things. I'm actively after one of the Weatherby branded ones, but they're like rocking horse poo.
Large part of what makes the Weatherby ones so good, is the 1416 barreled action.

 

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Lovely little things. I'm actively after one of the Weatherby branded ones, but they're like rocking horse poo.
Large part of what makes the Weatherby ones so good, is the 1416 barreled action.

Well that sounds good!

Hopefully it's in good condition! We'll see

 

[Greener Jim]

Well that sounds good!

Hopefully it's in good condition! We'll see

Fingers crossed for you mate

 

[Andy Mauthe]

That looks nice mate! May i ask what you'd consider a fair price ?

PS: How's the trigger?

Well I have no idea what a fair price would be in your location but I paid $800 here in the USA and I feel that was very reasonable. To put it into context, that’s right about 1/3 the price of a new Anschutz 1761 Sporter in 22LR. Not saying that the model 14/16 is the equivalent to the much more modern 1761, but for casual target shooting, plinking, pest control, and small game hunting it’s more than up to the task. As for the trigger. These didn’t come with a match grade trigger typically on the sporter to my understanding. Mine doesn’t have the match trigger. So I made a couple modifications. I installed a lighter spring in the trigger which really lightened up the pull weight range. The springs are available online. Then I added an over travel adjustment screw which isn’t in the sporter trigger from the factory. It’s not a difficult fix because strangely enough the hole for the over travel adjustment screw is there, but it’s not tapped for threads. So I just had to tap it and add a small set screw. Now I have a trigger with zero creep, essentially no over travel, and a crisp break at about 14 ounces. Sorry for the long answer . But basically I would say to look at the price of new and base your used price by some reasonable factor off of that. And the trigger is ok as it comes. I just did some reading and found that it could be upgraded pretty easily and cheaply (less than $10 US for everything). Let us know how you make out!

 

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Well I have no idea what a fair price would be in your location but I paid $800 here in the USA and I feel that was very reasonable. To put it into context, that’s right about 1/3 the price of a new Anschutz 1761 Sporter in 22LR. Not saying that the model 14/16 is the equivalent to the much more modern 1761, but for casual target shooting, plinking, pest control, and small game hunting it’s more than up to the task. As for the trigger. These didn’t come with a match grade trigger typically on the sporter to my understanding. Mine doesn’t have the match trigger. So I made a couple modifications. I installed a lighter spring in the trigger which really lightened up the pull weight range. The springs are available online. Then I added an over travel adjustment screw which isn’t in the sporter trigger from the factory. It’s not a difficult fix because strangely enough the hole for the over travel adjustment screw is there, but it’s not tapped for threads. So I just had to tap it and add a small set screw. Now I have a trigger with zero creep, essentially no over travel, and a crisp break at about 14 ounces. Sorry for the long answer . But basically I would say to look at the price of new and base your used price by some reasonable factor off of that. And the trigger is ok as it comes. I just did some reading and found that it could be upgraded pretty easily and cheaply (less than $10 US for everything). Let us know how you make out!

No no , don't be sorry, this is Great information! Thank you mate
IF the rifle is in good decent condition, I might be getting quite a Good deal, but we'll see. I'll return to this thread once I know more

 

[South Pender]

Used rimfire rifles are usually pretty safe bets if the price is reasonable. While you may have concerns about the condition of the bore on a centerfire rifle (and questions about how many rounds of top accuracy remain with it), this is almost never a concern with a rimfire if it has been properly maintained. It would take many tens of thousands of rounds to come close to rendering a rimfire barrel shot out. The rifle you are considering, if it is indeed a 1415 (which is no longer made), is built on the Anschutz 64 action, which was used on their sporting, but not top-level match, rifles, and is their second-line rimfire action (behind the 54), but all Anschutz barrels are known for their precision. The barrels on the 54-action rifles have a slight choke effect near the muzzle to enhance accuracy, and this may also be true for the 64-action barrels. This rifle will be very accurate, and it's hard to think of a better lightweight .22LR sporter for the purposes you mention.

 

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Used rimfire rifles are usually pretty safe bets if the price is reasonable. While you may have concerns about the condition of the bore on a centerfire rifle (and questions about how many rounds of top accuracy remain with it), this is almost never a concern with a rimfire if it has been properly maintained. It would take many tens of thousands of rounds to come close to rendering a rimfire barrel shot out. The rifle you are considering, if it is indeed a 1415 (which is no longer made), is built on the Anschutz 64 action, which was used on their sporting, but not top-level match, rifles, and is their second-line rimfire action (behind the 54), but all Anschutz barrels are known for their precision. The barrels on the 54-action rifles have a slight choke effect near the muzzle to enhance accuracy, and this may also be true for the 64-action barrels. This rifle will be very accurate, and it's hard to think of a better lightweight .22LR sporter for the purposes you mention.

Thanks for council and information @South Pender , it is much appreciated I just today agreed to go see the anschutz this wednesday, and if the rifles general condition looks good, i'll buy it. .-)
As far as i have understood it, it was originally the sellers dads rifle, but for the last 20 or so years it has only been used a few times to control Rook birds by him and his brother.

 

[Andy Mauthe]

Thanks for council and information @South Pender , it is much appreciated I just today agreed to go see the anschutz this wednesday, and if the rifles general condition looks good, i'll buy it. .-)
As far as i have understood it, it was originally the sellers dads rifle, but for the last 20 or so years it has only been used a few times to control Rook birds by him and his brother.

Sounds like you might be on to a good one. Was it only driven to church on Sundays?. Send us pics if you get it. One note. If you have access to a bore scope that would be great to have a good look at the bore. While it’s true that it would take several lifetimes to shoot out a rimfire barrel. They can rust internally and it can be nearly impossible to see without a borescope. I took mine to the retail shop where I had mine shipped to check.

 

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Sounds like you might be on to a good one. Was it only driven to church on Sundays?. Send us pics if you get it. One note. If you have access to a bore scope that would be great to have a good look at the bore. While it’s true that it would take several lifetimes to shoot out a rimfire barrel. They can rust internally and it can be nearly impossible to see without a borescope. I took mine to the retail shop where I had mine shipped to check.

haha, i dont know, but maybe i should ask him tomorrow I'll upload some pics in here, if i buy it. It might take some time though, as even if i agree to buy it tomorrow, i still need to wait to take possession of it, until the police issues me the permit for this specific rifle.


Good idea with the barrel scope .-) ! However unfortunately i dont have one, nor do i really have easy access to one either. It might be some kit that is worth getting in the future, but for now i'll have to go old school, and look at what i can on the rifle itself, consider how it was stored and try to get an initial sense of the seller and how he handles his weapons.

 

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Update: Right, i was just down at the sellers residence to have a look, - it's a neat little thing. 14-15 inch barrel maybe and perhaps 90 something centimeters long? It says anschutz ulm germany caliber 22 lr down the left hand side of the action, and shows a serial number, but i couldnt see the model number at a glance. I do think its the 1415-1416, based on the 64 action.
The riflIe shows signs of use, of course, but nothing bad, and the seller is a fellow hunter who also used to target shoot 22s, and he seems to know his way about guns, and how to handle them. I reckon it has been taken good care of, since he took hold of it 20 years or so ago. The rifling looked good from what i could see, with no apparent rust on the action or barrel.

So, pending the issue of a permit, i bought it. Price was 1200 Danish kroner, or about 135 pounds, which if it still shoot well, should be a good deal i reckon. The scope does needs imrproving on, but i already have a leupold vx3i 3-10 that should do nicely on there, i reckon. The seller is even throwing in 200 or so shots of ammo to get started.
But for now i have to wait for the permit to be issued to be able to take it home, and then start plinking it with it, at the range.

 

[South Pender]

The Anschutz 1415/1416 rifles I've seen have 'Anschutz Modell 1415-1416' stamped on the top of the barrel. The entire barrel and action are identical on the two models; only the stock differs. If it has a beech uncheckered stock, it is a 1415; if it has walnut checkered stock, it is a 1416.

I've read that Anschutz put the same barrels on their 64-series rifles as they did on their match 54-series rifles. This will all but guarantee that your new rifle will be extremely accurate. The price you paid is a steal. Here in Canada, a 1415/1416 Annie will go for several times that.

Some pictures of it when you get it would be appreciated.