Malxwal
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Wild boar, now that's interesting.
6mm non toxic experience
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Malxwal
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What sort of MV are you running the 243 at ?
3134 fps to get it UK deer legal (1744 ft/lb) in a shortened (20") Sako 75
Some recovered heads:
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Savage 14, Lapua brass, Barnes TTSX 80gr, 42gr N550, V0 1010m/s 1 shot behind the ear for this 80kg boar.
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My nephew uses Barnes in his .243 and have had no problems on red and roes so far. But the 3 reds and 2 roes he shot so far was all hit well, so different types of ammo wouldn’t really have made any difference anyway.
There has been several people here having trouble in their 243s and lead free, the caliber has gotten a reputation being a bit troublesome with nontoxic.
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There has been several people here having trouble in their 243s and lead free, the caliber has gotten a reputation being a bit troublesome with nontoxic.
Barnes Vor-TX TTSX 243win 80gr BT 20 stk Blyfri Riffelpatron
Jagtpatron med blyfri kobberkugle med hurtig ekspansion. Kuglen folder sig ud i 4 kobbervinger som gennemskære kød og knogler. Ideel til ræve og råvildt. Hastighed: V/munding: 1021 m/s V/100 m: 927 m/s Energi: V/munding: 2700 J V/100 m: 2200 J
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Are you allowed to use 243Win for red deer in DK?My nephew uses Barnes in his .243 and have had no problems on red and roes so far. But the 3 reds and 2 roes he shot so far was all hit well, so different types of ammo wouldn’t really have made any difference anyway.
There has been several people here having trouble in their 243s and lead free, the caliber has gotten a reputation being a bit troublesome with nontoxic.
Barnes Vor-TX TTSX 243win 80gr BT 20 stk Blyfri Riffelpatron
Jagtpatron med blyfri kobberkugle med hurtig ekspansion. Kuglen folder sig ud i 4 kobbervinger som gennemskære kød og knogler. Ideel til ræve og råvildt. Hastighed: V/munding: 1021 m/s V/100 m: 927 m/s Energi: V/munding: 2700 J V/100 m: 2200 J
NewForester
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I mean this in a friendly and non-confrontational way.
. I am concerned with the use of "Toxic". I know we would not want water in lead pipes, and unleaded petrol is far better, but I don't think that there is any evidence that people who eat animals shot with lead have any side effects from lead.
Anti-shooting organisations will look for any angle to limit hunting, and emotive wording is their starting point.
Malxwal
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Thanks for your points, however I think we're all aware of the semantics. Unfortunately, if I say copper, there'll be a pedant or two come out of the woodwork.I mean this in a friendly and non-confrontational way.
I am concerned with the use of "Toxic". I know we would not want water in lead pipes, and unleaded petrol is far better, but I don't think that there is any evidence that people who eat animals shot with lead have any side effects from lead.
Anti-shooting organisations will look for any angle to limit hunting, and emotive wording is their starting point.
Regardless of how we choose to describe, probably best lead free/unleaded, some stalkers now have no choice and can benefit from pooled experience and information.
Just started working up a load for 80.5 Yew Tree with N160, will be used predominantly for Roe but there are some big reds on the ground (all be it very elusive) so interested to see how it performs. My usual choice is .260 / .308 / .300WM but the .243 is a great chambering so keen to get out with it.
The 243 with 80gr Barnes is definitely fit for even the larger deer species.
Wild boar I can’t comment on
Brave Echo Niner
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80gr nonlead run at sensible velocity from anything 20-24” has more energy from 0-300m than the equivalent barrel length running a 100gr
Have loaded non lead in 243, 6BR, 240H&H, 6mmCM
Mostly 80gr with the exception of 100gr 243 Peregrine and 100gr 240 H&H
We supply several Scottish estates with 100gr .243 ammunition specifically for red deer for the keeper and/or estate rifles
We also have several customers in the SW shooting mush larger red deer with 80gr Fox
Usual story
Put them in the right place and they are just as effective
My personal choice is a higher shoulder shot unless there is a lot of open ground to allow for a heart shot and any moderate run as usual.
We dont tend to allow guests to shoot Sika with .243 unless we know them and have some confidence they can out the bullets exactly as above
Anything lung/heart shot near trees is a long day ahead
But that goes for lots of cartridges and sika
Have loaded non lead in 243, 6BR, 240H&H, 6mmCM
Mostly 80gr with the exception of 100gr 243 Peregrine and 100gr 240 H&H
We supply several Scottish estates with 100gr .243 ammunition specifically for red deer for the keeper and/or estate rifles
We also have several customers in the SW shooting mush larger red deer with 80gr Fox
Usual story
Put them in the right place and they are just as effective
My personal choice is a higher shoulder shot unless there is a lot of open ground to allow for a heart shot and any moderate run as usual.
We dont tend to allow guests to shoot Sika with .243 unless we know them and have some confidence they can out the bullets exactly as above
Anything lung/heart shot near trees is a long day ahead
But that goes for lots of cartridges and sika
new forest
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I use the yew tree 80gr in my 6x47 and have shot plenty of reds both chest and head shots with them there is nothing bad to say as long as you can shoot straight
Malxwal
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What sort of MV are you pushing them at, powder type ?
new forest
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3400 fps I use n150 but my rifle has an 18” barrel so a slower powder might help you with normal barrel lengths
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