to upgrade or not?

[Drew 3]

Hi all, had a Pard 007 A since they came out, i guess 6 or 7 years ago. Still working great but keep looking at the new 007 SP LRF. Anyone got a new one and think it's worth getting the latest one, Gen 2, with the 2560x1440 2K sensor?

 

[Carlbrit]

Sack it off and get an Arken Zulus LRF, I've just moved over from the old school PARD 007 to the Zulus and its unreal, its an absolute game changer.

 

[charlie222]

I'm a big 007 fan. I went to buy a zulus lrf the other day and they talked me out of it. I've had the original 007 and now have a gen2 lrf. Bob it on and just shoot, simple but it works reliably. Ultimately you need confidence in what you use.

 

[Drew 3]

Thanks for the reply’s chaps, is the new one that much better?

 

[charlie222]

In terms of head postion on the stock yes its much better. Lrf is useful too.

 

[Drew 3]

Thanks Charlie, so head position is better. The gen2 is supposed to have a better sensor for a better image, what do you think?

 

[kenbro]

I'm a big 007 fan. I went to buy a zulus lrf the other day and they talked me out of it. I've had the original 007 and now have a gen2 lrf. Bob it on and just shoot, simple but it works reliably. Ultimately you need confidence in what you use.

Who talked you out of buying a Zulus?
Cheers,Ken.

 

[charlie222]

@Drew 3 I think the image is better but its down to the scope you use too.
@kenbro theres guy in the gunshop who's opinion i value. I liked the idea of the zulu being super light and small, on balance I know my pard works for me and I'll put up with the extra bulk for now.

 

[barbel]

I still use the original pard 007 16mm, shot loads with it, , got a hik 4k alot more money and alot better, but will not get ridd off the pard and still use it.

 

[Sandy25]

I was in the same situation a while back - had the choice of a Hik Alpex, Infiray TD50l and pard008p to put on my .22.

Went for pard in the end as much lighter than the other options

 

[Drew 3]

Looking at new stuff at the stalking show, I've decided keep using my 007A for a few more months and wait until June when the new 007 SP2 4K comes out.

 

[beanieboy]

My Vulpine MK3 gives a great image, is light, doesn't affect head position and I don't have to worry about a wandering zero that appears to be more of an issue with digital scopes than with standard day scopes. It doesn't have all the features of some dedicated digital alternatives, but this isn't an issue for me. Performance, portability and ease of use are what I look for. The Vulpine delivers on all three.
I haven't used the Pard 007sp, but I am reliability informed that they are very good indeed.

 

[homer]

My Vulpine MK3 gives a great image, is light, doesn't affect head position and I don't have to worry about a wandering zero that appears to be more of an issue with digital scopes than with standard day scopes. It doesn't have all the features of some dedicated digital alternatives, but this isn't an issue for me. Performance, portability and ease of use are what I look for. The Vulpine delivers on all three.
I haven't used the Pard 007sp, but I am reliability informed that they are very good indeed.

The vulpine is tremendous for exactly the reasons you have mentioned.

 

[Jelen]

Sack it off and get an Arken Zulus LRF, I've just moved over from the old school PARD 007 to the Zulus and its unreal, its an absolute game changer.

Definitely second that. I flogged my Nightforce & PARD and got a Zulus 5-20 LRF for the .243. Brilliant and usable out to 300yds day and night. So good I got another one for the 17hmr. And the zero does not wander.
The 6.5x55 has a March scope and for that the Vulpine + Torch is good out to 400yds.

 

[Smellydog]

I had an SP. The Zulus is way better.
I don't know how your chap thinks otherwise!
With SP you will need a very low powered scope because it's base mag is so high!

 

[charlie222]

@Smellydog I was dead set on a zulus atop my 527 but my man said some find them fiddly....I hate fiddly. I use a element 2-16x50 scope and the field of view is wider than I can flood the IR out to, needs zooming in for a good image though. I'm still tempted by the zulus multi spectral but if it's fiddly it can do one

 

[palo]

My Vulpine MK3 gives a great image, is light, doesn't affect head position and I don't have to worry about a wandering zero that appears to be more of an issue with digital scopes than with standard day scopes. It doesn't have all the features of some dedicated digital alternatives, but this isn't an issue for me. Performance, portability and ease of use are what I look for. The Vulpine delivers on all three.
I haven't used the Pard 007sp, but I am reliability informed that they are very good indeed.

I'm still thinking about a vulpine but I would like to get a look through one first.
I don't know anyone with one but I know a couple of guys with the hik alpex and alpex 4k scopes.
Would the image be better, worse or similar to any of these ?

 

[Smellydog]

@Smellydog I was dead set on a zulus atop my 527 but my man said some find them fiddly....I hate fiddly. I use a element 2-16x50 scope and the field of view is wider than I can flood the IR out to, needs zooming in for a good image though. I'm still tempted by the zulus multi spectral but if it's fiddly it can do one

They are not fiddly at all mate.

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

New 007 4k is out in a month.......

My only grip with the newer ones- especially with the lrf- is they are more angular and awkward. The old 007 just slips into a pocket so easily and there aren't any angles to catch on pockets etc.

 

[TringSaint]

Re the DNT multi spectral, I had been looking at the 5-20 IR unit but also noted the new IR/Thermal ones but was curious whether the base model for £1k is worth the extra £500 over the IR scope or whether you need to buy the mid point or top end unit to get a thermal image that is of any value.
Thoughts?