!!PRICE OF BULLETS!!

[enfieldspares]

The thing though that some find beyond price is the satisfaction of being able to say "I made that one...and it worked!" The same why people spend money on fly tying equipment and tie the things themselves rather than buying likely better and neater ready made Kenyan tied flies.

Pistol ammunition I used to load as it was a big cost saving and, of course in 9mm hard cast lead bullets that were gentler on the bore than FMJ bullets. And in revolver simply there was no factory .455 ammunition then. You used Norma made Kynoch cases of Mountan & Sowden cases.

Rifle ammunition for my Enfield SMLE and No4 I always loaded as it was always more accurate than any factory ammunition available in the 1980s and 1990s save for South African PMP. The Greek HXP was "toy ammunition" made for cadets and not accurate at longer ranges. South African PMP was made for war use...particularly overhead fire support...and so was always of he very best consistency and, so, accuracy.

I have never saved dabbling with blackpowder loaded shotgun ammunition but will going forward load .410 (I have a MEC 600, Mec Supersizer and a continental roll turnover tool) with bismuth as made at home will in these less common calibres be cheaper than factory loaded bismith.

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

Ahh the old price debate

Personally I’ve never worried about the cost, can’t see the point!

 

[Liveonce]

the real boom time for reloading was as said during the days of pistol shooting, could easily shoot 200 rounds on a Saturday. Fortunately virtually all my reloading gear dates that far back RCBS will last a lifetime and then some.
So it’s paid for itself time and time over, so just component costs for me.

 

[SimpleSimon]

How do you know the answer is correct?
Kb.

Why wouldn't it be?

 

[geoshot]

I paid £54 for 50 non lead 3030 bullets by Hornady and they are shite!

Did you find that they muck up the barrel something rotten too? I tried Hornady Outfitter in my rifle and the carbon was like a sooty chimney, took ages to get it clean - filthy stuff
Only just started to use Hornady "precision hunter" and it doesn't seem to be much better, even just a couple of rounds leaves way too much carbon in the bore
Both are ok in terms of accuracy
Both run about 200fps slower than MV on the box
They kill reliably enough, but still disappointing - especially at their price
6.5PRC btw

 

[geoshot]

Who the hell pays £5 a round for anything!

Depends upon the chambering, £5 per cartridge is typical for good 375H&H ammo - something loaded with 300gr Partitions for example - but cartridges loaded with the likes of A-frame will likely be ~£7 each or more
Cheaper stuff can be had of course, but some ammo brands are more expensive IF available at all
If the thoughts of £5 per round horrifies you I wouldn't suggest that you search 416Rigby 500NE etc

 

[bluesako]

I'm just about to start reloading at home, been building up some kit of my own after doing a couple of sessions with my brother-in-law to learn the ropes (and use his gucci stuff!)

I never bothered before due to the setup cost and low volume of ammo being used, but between myself and the Mrs we're now getting through quite a bit of pistol-caliber ammo alongside my stalking and plinking so it's actually become cost effective.

Also means fewer trips to my least favourite local gun shop for certain factory ammo!

try dillon cost calculator mate its eezzy you will be amazed

 

[kenbro]

Why wouldn't it be?

Tinternets full of AI that’s not true…did you not know that?
Ken.

 

[25 Sharps]

Depends upon the chambering, £5 per cartridge is typical for good 375H&H ammo - something loaded with 300gr Partitions for example - but cartridges loaded with the likes of A-frame will likely be ~£7 each or more
Cheaper stuff can be had of course, but some ammo brands are more expensive IF available at all
If the thoughts of £5 per round horrifies you I wouldn't suggest that you search 416Rigby 500NE etc

Yes, I shouldn’t have said anything, but for deer or fox rounds no one pays that, or shouldn’t be.

 

[geoshot]

Yes, I shouldn’t have said anything, but for deer or fox rounds no one pays that, or shouldn’t be.

I was joking around fella, I guessed that you meant "normal" ammo
I only mentioned 375 etc cos I own one, I usually load my own so I was shocked/horrified when I looked at the price of Sako factory ammo - ouch
Some friends of mine own 404, 416 470 and such, I don't envy them on ammo prices, but they don't shoot them very often
Which is lucky for them as the price hits as hard as the recoil

 

[SimpleSimon]

Tinternets full of AI that’s not true…did you not know that?
Ken.

Not really the same thing...

 

[kenbro]

Not really the same thing...

Yes you’re right, it’s not, but I’d still want confirmation before believing something like that for the first time.
Kb.

 

[norsk]

You need bugger all to get set up in reloading. I have set a couple of people up with decent second hand kit for less than £100.

Press: Either bench or hand held
Dies
Scale
Funnel from IKEA
Loading block made from two bits of 4X2" glued together
Teaspoon

There is alot of gear sitting idle out there,you just have to scratch it up.

 

[Smellydog]

Did you find that they muck up the barrel something rotten too? I tried Hornady Outfitter in my rifle and the carbon was like a sooty chimney, took ages to get it clean - filthy stuff
Only just started to use Hornady "precision hunter" and it doesn't seem to be much better, even just a couple of rounds leaves way too much carbon in the bore
Both are ok in terms of accuracy
Both run about 200fps slower than MV on the box
They kill reliably enough, but still disappointing - especially at their price
6.5PRC btw

They were bullets only.
I tried two powders and struggled to get a group.
They do leave a lot of copper on the lands.
They didn't touch the groove bottom's. I think they should be made to .309" at least!

 

[Foxyboy43]

Just back from the range. Great day playing with the two Remmys - daren’t even think about the cost but a man’s gotta do…

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

Is it me or has the price of factory bullets getting crazy now?
went to get 2 packs of 150gr federal bullets the other day £110 pound wow i was shocked.
is it the same everywhere else.
might have to get into reloading
cheers swaro

£2.75 a bang, this when consider 15 years ago I was paying £1.50 a pop to load copper!

So really, you can’t really grumble, You can be unhappy about it but with price things are these days it’s acceptable.

 

[Border]

Some price examples from over here in NOK. And not the dearest shop either....

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

Some price examples from over here in NOK. And not the dearest shop either....
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I would quit your winging you lot

 

[nun_hunter]

Yes you’re right, it’s not, but I’d still want confirmation before believing something like that for the first time.
Kb.

You'd be best of using a calculator

AI stuff is only ever as good as the input commands you use, I also find it useful to ask it to reference any answers for more topical issues so I can check.

 

[Too Deer]

I chronographed some of their 110 gr .308, it was only doing about 1400 ft-lb. Very accurate though!

I doubt the 180s in .308 are going to expand very well at any distance, they’ll be starting slow enough as it is.

I used some when it first came out and it was leaving the muzzle at 2550fps+. It was fine under 120yds...... I never pushed it beyond that though.