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Posted to ensure the farming community realise that institutions and gov can take land from individuals unless they are very careful. Heart breaking FFS....... UK council or UK mafia???? There is undoubtedly criminality going on here, but I don't think those involved are part of this interview. Agenda 2030 as suggested, farmers are not part of the plan. Would you trust a developer? Do you trust your council?



And as a disclaimer, I have no reason to believe the contents of this video already available on-line, is not factual.
 
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NoIDeer said:
Survived 8 minutes of that video. I reckon they are travellers. It's common around here, they buy land, move in then claim the right to stay.
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Nickb said:
Farmers dont make me laugh, travellers obviously. The whole thing stinks 💩
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If it had been a relatively recent purchase, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But it wasn't. They'd bought that farm back in the 1980s (I think they said?), at a time when lots of people from non farming backgrounds were doing the whole "escape the rat race" thing, and buying cheap smallholdings and playing about at small-scale farming. (That’s exactly what my parents did, which is why I have ended up following a career in agriculture).
However, most of the "downshifters" at that time were well educated, professional people (there were lots of teachers/lecturers/accountants etc among the smallholding community, I recall), and they knew how to handle things like planning and legal matters, even if they didn’t have a clue about farming! Unfortunately, the couple featured in the video clearly weren't from the better educated end of the spectrum and have just walked straight into disaster as if they were blindfolded. They couldn't differentiate between good and bad advice, made wrong decisions, and left themselves wide open to being hounded and shafted.
 
VSS said:
If it had been a relatively recent purchase, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But it wasn't. They'd bought that farm back in the 1980s (I think they said?), at a time when lots of people from non farming backgrounds were doing the whole "escape the rat race" thing, and buying cheap smallholdings and playing about at small-scale farming. (That’s exactly what my parents did, which is why I have ended up following a career in agriculture).
However, most of the "downshifters" at that time were well educated, professional people (there were lots of teachers/lecturers/accountants etc among the smallholding community, I recall), and they knew how to handle things like planning and legal matters, even if they didn’t have a clue about farming! Unfortunately, the couple featured in the video clearly weren't from the better educated end of the spectrum and have just walked straight into disaster as if they were blindfolded. They couldn't differentiate between good and bad advice, made wrong decisions, and left themselves wide open to being hounded and shafted.
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A caravan site full of homeless people, yeah right.

You really are naive and gullible.

Why prosecute them for proceeds of crime and get jail sentences ?

You need to come out of your bubble and live in the real world.
 
Nickb said:
A caravan site full of homeless people, yeah right.

You really are naive and gullible.

Why prosecute them for proceeds of crime and get jail sentences ?

You need to come out of your bubble and live in the real world.
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You ought to come out of your bubble and see how many genuine farm caravan sites are full of homeless/unemployed people, funded by local government. That's what happens when there aren't enough council houses in the area.

As for the prosecutions and all that, as I said in my earlier post, they'd taken bad advice and made poor choices as a result. I did not comment on whether they should or shouldn't have been prosecuted for whatever it was that they were alleged to have done.
 
VSS said:
You ought to come out of your bubble and see how many genuine farm caravan sites are full of homeless/unemployed people, funded by local government. That's what happens when there aren't enough council houses in the area.

As for the prosecutions and all that, as I said in my earlier post, they'd taken bad advice and made poor choices as a result. I did not comment on whether they should or shouldn't have been prosecuted for whatever it was that they were alleged to have done.
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I have fairies living at the bottom of my garden ....honest.
 
I watched it last night and had a good giggle...
If they are not both direct descendants of travellers, I'm sure she is.
We have this going on around us. One site, 1/4 mile away from me, I know the guy who still owns a small piece of it. Here is a bit of the backstory.

"Stan" purchased it 35 years ago; It started life as just two small outlying 3-acre fields belonging to a large estate. They sold them off, a company tried to set up a nursery business there, loads of proper job glasshouses, the full works, they never applied for the correct planning, disputes with the council, which sent them almost into bankruptcy, new age travellers set up on the abandoned site and trashed the place, the owners had bugger all money to get the new age travellers off... that's where! Stan" steps in, he buys it for little money with the new age traveller problem insitu... heres where it gets interesting, Stan is a lovable villain, he gets some chums down from Essex and at 5am on a summers morning they walk onto both sites, hammering on the caravans waking everyone up... waving a couple of cans of petrol about and a box of matches, telling all the highly intelligent university dropouts they have five minutes to 'eff off... alledgedly you've never seen people pull their knickers on and hitch the vans up quicker in your life.. anyhow they all bugger off that morning. Stan wangles temporary planning for a "kennels" he's now sold off the majority of the site three years ago to Pi-keys... It's a nightmare.

A similar thing is happening in the next village, they have about 20 statics pulled into it, although nobody is living there yet...
 
Bo Diddley said:
I watched it last night and had a good giggle...
If they are not both direct descendants of travellers, I'm sure she is.
We have this going on around us. One site, 1/4 mile away from me, I know the guy who still owns a small piece of it. Here is a bit of the backstory.

"Stan" purchased it 35 years ago; It started life as just two small outlying 3-acre fields belonging to a large estate. They sold them off, a company tried to set up a nursery business there, loads of proper job glasshouses, the full works, they never applied for the correct planning, disputes with the council, which sent them almost into bankruptcy, new age travellers set up on the abandoned site and trashed the place, the owners had bugger all money to get the new age travellers off... that's where ! Stan" steps in, he buys it for little money with the new age traveller problem insitu... heres where it gets interesting, Stan is a lovable villain, he gets some chums down from Essex and at 5am on a summers morning they walk onto both sites, hammering on the caravans waking everyone up... waving a couple of cans of petrol about and a box of matches, telling all the highly intelligent university dropouts they have five minutes to 'eff off... alledgedly youve never seen people pull their knockers on and hitch the vans up uicker in your life.. anyhow they all bugger off that morning. Stan wangles temporary planning for a "kennels" he's now sold off the majority of the site three years ago to Pi-keys... It's a nightmare.

A similar thing is happening in the next village, they have about 20 statics pulled into it, although nobody is living there yet...
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Don't believe you 🤣🤣🤣

VSS will be along to put you right.
 
Nickb said:
Don't belive you 🤣🤣🤣

VSS will be along to put you right.
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I'm still friendly with "Stan", had a chat with him last week, he wants me to buy the last little plot off him, I'd have bought the whole lot if he hadn't got the Pi-keys involved.

His eviction of the "New Age" dropouts is legendary in the village. I watched the remnants of it as I was out mooching about with the terriers.
 
I only listened to 5 minutes. I feel sorry for the farmer, but he did allow caravans to park on the land without a lease nor any formal arrangement. Plus he accepted money in return. Anyone with an ounce of legal training would have warned him of the dangers.

I didn't get to the bit about stealing land, but in the UK a freehold title is absolute, subject to the crown and cannot be stolen. Maybe the local authority claimed adverse possession (because they were using the land exclusively and continuously for a certain period of time), however their is a long process for this designed to protect the registered legal owner with lots of opportunity to object.
 
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Nickb said:
No I live in a caravan....honest
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Well if I were to fall into the trap of categorising people according to the social characteristics that they display I would probably have reached that conclusion myself.
I guessed that your in-depth knowledge of travellers, pikeys and general ne'r-do-wells must have come from somewhere.
 
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