Its an interesting point and one that became very apparent to me on some ground I now shoot near Exeter. The deer are under so much pressure from public access that the first and last 30 mins of legal light are when you have the chance to shoot the deer so digital really helps to get the numbers down. I would much prefer shooting with glass and full light but last trip where I did this I shot 4 and reckon I could have shot 8 with digital...its a numbers game and any advantage helps..Everyone with their thermal and digital scopes will be pushing the +1 hr -1hr law within amd inch of its life, the flood doors will open and the price will drop through the floor guaranteed, it’s nothing to get excited about that’s for sure
To me that says you’re shooting them at night, but you within the law of the plus or -1 hour Gray area there I would be very careful.Its an interesting point and one that became very apparent to me on some ground I now shoot near Exeter. The deer are under so much pressure from public access that the first and last 30 mins of legal light are when you have the chance to shoot the deer so digital really helps to get the numbers down. I would much prefer shooting with glass and full light but last trip where I did this I shot 4 and reckon I could have shot 8 with digital...its a numbers game and any advantage helps..
Nope ... bang on the hour before or after sunset. I have a decent optic but my eyes arent great with first and last light so I probably lose and extra 15 mins on that account (hence the 30 min rather then 15 min comment)To me that says you’re shooting them at night, but you within the law of the plus or -1 hour Gray area there I would be very careful
Like I said, it’s the hour gameNope ... bang on the hour before or after sunset. I have a decent optic but my eyes arent great with first and last light so I probably lose and extra 15 mins on that account (hence the 30 min rather then 15 min comment). With the exception of velcro PPE is am law abiding
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and again when the gamekeepers stop looking after their birdsDon’t be daft first of November everyone will flood the market and they will drop like a stone
If I can't see them with my torch it's too dark......Nope ... bang on the hour before or after sunset. I have a decent optic but my eyes arent great with first and last light so I probably lose and extra 15 mins on that account (hence the 30 min rather then 15 min comment). With the exception of velcro PPE is am law abiding
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You laugh I reckon within the next five years there will be no legal hours will be 24 hours and just a relevant species season, then watch the price drop the dealers won’t pay for them. Market will be flooded. You can see it coming.If I can't see them with my torch it's too dark......![]()
Hopefully not but see your pointYou laugh I reckon within the next five years there will be no legal hours will be 24 hours and just a relevant species season, then watch the price drop the dealers won’t pay for them. Market will be flooded. You can see it coming.![]()
It's for that reason that I have parked my Hik 4k Alpex LRF so far this season in favour of their Thunder 3 clip-on. The Hik was devastation in those golden hours last season, but at the cost of a poorer picture throughout daylight. So far, I'm pleased to say that this changed equipment strategy is working for meIts an interesting point and one that became very apparent to me on some ground I now shoot near Exeter. The deer are under so much pressure from public access that the first and last 30 mins of legal light are when you have the chance to shoot the deer so digital really helps to get the numbers down. I would much prefer shooting with glass and full light but last trip where I did this I shot 4 and reckon I could have shot 8 with digital...its a numbers game and any advantage helps..
Good call and glad its working for youIt's for that reason that I have parked my Hik 4k Alpex LRF so far this season in favour of their Thunder 3 clip-on. The Hik was devastation in those golden hours last season, but at the cost of a poorer picture throughout daylight. So far, I'm pleased to say that this changed equipment strategy is working for me![]()
I'm surprised the clip ons arent as utilized there incredibly handy, the one I used might of been IR? (dunno, uncles, def not thermal) but at the time It was illegal for deer in Scotland so being able too go shoot roe, then as sun went down head back to the car and screw it on for foxes was handy.It's for that reason that I have parked my Hik 4k Alpex LRF so far this season in favour of their Thunder 3 clip-on. The Hik was devastation in those golden hours last season, but at the cost of a poorer picture throughout daylight. So far, I'm pleased to say that this changed equipment strategy is working for me![]()
@Mike1979 I'm using it on 2 x Z6i - a 5-30x50 (.270) and a 2.5-15x56 (.308). I've also just put a mount on my DS too as, why notGood call and glad its working for youI dont want to spend any more cash on kit at the mo...but love my Swaro Z6i....though it can go onto the .243 once I move the Alpex onto the Creed.
Just looked at the price of the clip on and glad I was sat down![]()
Fair play@Mike1979 I'm using it on 2 x Z6i - a 5-30x50 (.270) and a 2.5-15x56 (.308). I've also just put a mount on my DS too as, why notThe Thunder came at less than half price second-hand and was only 4 months old
Right time, right place.....