In case you needed to know what "pillowcasing" means.

[enfieldspares]

A quick cut and paste still from an American video of "Hunting Pheasants with a 120 Year Old Shotgun".

The bird is not ten, fifteen yards distant when it rises. And BANG it gets the "pillowcasing" treatment. Tell the cook it's pheasant soup tonight!

 

[Tim.243]

A quick cut and paste still from an American video of "Hunting Pheasants with a 120 Year Old Shotgun".

The bird is not ten, fifteen yards distant when it rises. And BANG it gets the "pillowcasing" treatment. Tell the cook it's pheasant soup tonight!



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min .14 was close to the daffy duck dressed shooter but his hi-vis saved him.

 

[Jimboblincs2]

A old pal of mine would say " cooked, plucked and forked, all with one barrel"

 

[Foxyboy43]

Awful!
Many years ago a wee local shoot member was notorious for this. At the end of the year we always had a rotated club dinner at one home or other where we served the product of our season. Much fun was had by all at these events but the most memorable one was when said “close-ranger” was served his meal on a domed silver salver which when upon lifting the lid he found the plate contained only a solitary plastic wad - retrieved from one of his victims! My how he laughed…..

 

[VSS]

And yet stalkers are criticised if they don’t get as close to their quarry as possible....

 

[timbrayford]

And yet stalkers are criticised if they don’t get as close to their quarry as possible....

No-one uses 122mm calibre for deer stalking!

 

[timbrayford]

Awful!
Many years ago a wee local shoot member was notorious for this. At the end of the year we always had a rotated club dinner at one home or other where we served the product of our season. Much fun was had by all at these events but the most memorable one was when said “close-ranger” was served his meal on a domed silver salver which when upon lifting the lid he found the plate contained only a solitary plastic wad - retrieved from one of his victims! My how he laughed…..

Some years ago I managed to impact a partridge in a similar manner, although it was around 30 yards away. This came as a bit of a puzzle as the bird did have a massive hole in it. When I disposed of my empty cases at the end of the drive all was revealed, there in amongst my no.6 game loads was a solitary SSG case!

 

[sauer]

Pate !!! Anyonee for Pate ?!!!!

 

[VSS]

No-one uses 122mm calibre for deer stalking!

122mm???
That's about 5 inches!
What kind of gun are we talking about here?

 

[timbrayford]

122mm???
That's about 5 inches!
What kind of gun are we talking about here?

Howitzer, the whole point being that at very close range using a 12 bore shotgun with a ME of 2300 ft/lbs on a 2 or 3 lb pheasant roughly equates to using an artillery round on a 32 stone red stag at a similarly close range as opposed to a puny little .243 at around 1945 ft/lbs ME that is more normal

 

[SSN100]

What are they shouting? sounds like "rooster", is it to indicate a cock bird.

 

[Oh6]

Some years ago I managed to impact a partridge in a similar manner, although it was around 30 yards away. This came as a bit of a puzzle as the bird did have a massive hole in it. When I disposed of my empty cases at the end of the drive all was revealed, there in amongst my no.6 game loads was a solitary SSG case!

I had similar many years ago, a high crossing pigeon, high enough that I was pleased with the shot. At the shot there was a big cloud of feathers, which the -clearly dead in the air- pigeon emerged from.

When I picked it up, it was strangely floppy, but went out in the pattern and I continued shooting.

On plucking it that evening, I discovered the wad embedded in it's breast (on its way in), pulling the wad out, there continued a neat round 12g size hole right the way through and out the other side!

So for whatever reason, it seems likely that the pellets were fused together like a slug.

 

[VSS]

Howitzer, the whole point being that at very close range using a 12 bore shotgun with a ME of 2300 ft/lbs on a 2 or 3 lb pheasant roughly equates to using an artillery round on a 32 stone red stag at a similarly close range as opposed to a puny little .243 at around 1945 ft/lbs ME that is more normal

Ok, fair enough.
It seems to me then that the best option is to do as I do, stalk as close to the pheasant as possible and head shoot it with either a 22lr or .410 shotgun when it's standing still.
Can't see any sense in long range shots at moving targets, or blasting short range targets into oblivion with excessive firepower.

 

[timbrayford]

Ok, fair enough.
It seems to me then that the best option is to do as I do, stalk as close to the pheasant as possible and head shoot it with either a 22lr or .410 shotgun when it's standing still.
Can't see any sense in long range shots at moving targets, or blasting short range targets into oblivion with excessive firepower.

I don't think that I'd care to do that on a posh driven day, I'll leave the tale of the Frenchman on the rough shoot to another occasion!

 

[VSS]

I don't think that I'd care to do that on a posh driven day

I don’t think I'd care to do a posh driven day.
Not my scene these days.
Done my fair share in the past.

 

[Scotty99]

A number of years ago I used to beat on an estate that had a lot of let days. There was a group of Americans that used to come over and shoot several estates in the area. There was one time when a bird flew over one gun no more than about fifteen feet in the air above his head needless to say he shot it, only to be showered in feathers and body parts.

Hardly surprising given the team’s mantra was, and I kid you not, “If it flies it dies……if it’s brown it’s down”.

Very glad that I did not witness them deer stalking.

 

[BenBhoy]

What are they shouting? sounds like "rooster", is it to indicate a cock bird.

They're American, they just like shouting & feel the need to be loud all the time. some sort of inadequacy??

 

[Tim.243]

They're American, they just like shouting & feel the need to be loud all the time. some sort of inadequacy??

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Even us Brits shout.

 

[tackb]

They're American, they just like shouting & feel the need to be loud all the time. some sort of inadequacy??

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and all brits have bad teeth and drink tea................

 

[Dunwaters]

i once took the head clean off a pheasant with a 12 bore. I was coming through a hedge it flew over my head and I fired from the hip. There wasn’t a single pellet in it.