You might need to thicken up the one leg as the standard clip position is slightly thicker. Few wraps of electrical insulation tape does the trick.
Premium Quad Stick Comparison/Review Blaser vs Viperflex vs Spartan
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Thanks - great write up. I love my viperflex with fifth leg. I have the aluminium poles and carbon fibre fifth leg because I’m a muppet and bought the wrong ones, but it’s all compatible. My stock is flat so I don’t have the problem described above. Whatever you go for, practice with it. If you don’t do that then you’ll have issues on the field.
If you're gonna be negative about both sets at least nail the fundamental/underlying failing!
The issue - for me - is neither may be relied upon when folded to provide the support a single c30mm diameter hazel or holly stick affords when negotiating precipitous terrain. In short, they may be fine for the Client who creeps through a truly lowland wood and is given plenty of time by his/her Guide to deploy them, but are singularly incapable of supporting a 67-year as he strides gazelle-like across the Greensand Ridge.
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The issue - for me - is neither may be relied upon when folded to provide the support a single c30mm diameter hazel or holly stick affords when negotiating precipitous terrain. In short, they may be fine for the Client who creeps through a truly lowland wood and is given plenty of time by his/her Guide to deploy them, but are singularly incapable of supporting a 67-year as he strides gazelle-like across the Greensand Ridge.
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HonestJohn
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Seen mates with blaser sticks fail twice, ok, they sent spare parts free, but still! Let a friend use my beloved wood stocked rifle one night, he used viper or bushwear or some shjite, he held the rifle down firm and it ripped a gaping hole in the underside of the stock from the ‘grippy’ teeth in the front rear. Took me weeks to repair and refinish the stock!!
I used, and still use @limulus sticks but have had much wood stocked rifle damage/scratches - solution was to level off the tips and attach canvas nylon type fabric across them, basically creating a flat soft surface for the front end, also allowing tracking without moving the legs, and the rear had a more relaxed fit, allowing the underside edge to sit ‘in’ the fabric cradle slightly. That’s transformed them to not only looking good, but working beautifully for tracking a moving deer without the risk of damaging your stock.
I used, and still use @limulus sticks but have had much wood stocked rifle damage/scratches - solution was to level off the tips and attach canvas nylon type fabric across them, basically creating a flat soft surface for the front end, also allowing tracking without moving the legs, and the rear had a more relaxed fit, allowing the underside edge to sit ‘in’ the fabric cradle slightly. That’s transformed them to not only looking good, but working beautifully for tracking a moving deer without the risk of damaging your stock.
Encase the front and rear cradles in hand stitched leather with a middle sandwich comprising multiple layers of glued suede.
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My preference is either the stable sticks or b+q sticks. I was sort of forced to go viperflex when my dog thought it was a good idea to run in to my stable sticks with rifle on top... they snapped. 2 days before a week's stalking 
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I've noticed with my vipeflex they dont hold the rifle and subsequently I'm not as accurate with them, especially if you've got a rounded forend. The b+q and stablesticks gave much less room for movement which I actually liked.
In short - ive shot deer with them all, successfully out beyond 300. They all work, until the dogs takes them out!
.I've noticed with my vipeflex they dont hold the rifle and subsequently I'm not as accurate with them, especially if you've got a rounded forend. The b+q and stablesticks gave much less room for movement which I actually liked.
In short - ive shot deer with them all, successfully out beyond 300. They all work, until the dogs takes them out!
After many excursions down rabbit holes, including a couple of the options in the op, wooden versions and making my own "garden cane" sticks I finally settled on the PH Jagt Rhino quads from the Corinium Range shop
The best bit was adding a Jakele stability line, which I found to be easier to use, quicker and to provide as much or more stability than the Viper fifth-leg - which had previously been my favourite
The best bit was adding a Jakele stability line, which I found to be easier to use, quicker and to provide as much or more stability than the Viper fifth-leg - which had previously been my favourite
HeliStalker92
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Recently moved to the Viper-Flex Styx Pro with the 5th Leg and absolutely love them. They’re simple to deploy, and provide a good solid stable platform to shoot from!
Corinium Range shop produce a retrofit ViperFlex Sticks Rear Yoke Upgrade
So if your stock has a thin rear end of the stock this upgrade sorts that. 19.95 plus delivery and the Jakele Stability Line £20 plus delivery replaces a bulky 5th leg and far easier to use and adjust position especially when vegetation underfoot. Got to be the best option unless you go Rekon tripod, but not all like the weight.So do you use a upmarket tripod ?
All these "aids to hold" but still the fallow population is on the increase!
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Glad it was helpful. Not exactly sure I was recommending the Spartan though, but everyone is different and has different needs.
Foxyboy43
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Great write up thank you.
Being a long-time graduate of the B&Q College of Knowledge I too tried Bushwear’s bargain priced sticks and managed to break the last six inches of one leg on my first outing. Repaired and now repose in my jeep as a fallback should my B&Qs fail (unlikely).
Recently purchased a set of mint Blaser v1s (FB’s confessional time) and find the pistol grip fore end very useful - they are heavy buggers (steel?) and can be noisy but they are very steady - currently undecided about keeping them but would be interested to hear more about the reported issue with the front grip - which I do like?
Being a long-time graduate of the B&Q College of Knowledge I too tried Bushwear’s bargain priced sticks and managed to break the last six inches of one leg on my first outing. Repaired and now repose in my jeep as a fallback should my B&Qs fail (unlikely).
Recently purchased a set of mint Blaser v1s (FB’s confessional time) and find the pistol grip fore end very useful - they are heavy buggers (steel?) and can be noisy but they are very steady - currently undecided about keeping them but would be interested to hear more about the reported issue with the front grip - which I do like?
HonestJohn
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When using the Blaser joystick grip thing, how do you hold the forend of the rifle, or do you let it free recoil in the sticks!
Even with quad sticks, I always have a grip on the forend of the rifle stick, or lay the left hand on top of the scope
Even with quad sticks, I always have a grip on the forend of the rifle stick, or lay the left hand on top of the scope
You can put one finger up to make contact with the stock if you want, but generally speaking that’s pointless. So in answer to your question it is a case of allowing the rifle to “free recoil”. That said the V holds the rifle more securely than a cradle on the bushwear or vipers does so probably mitigates any differences.
I dragged a 75kg fallow buck out of bracken and brambles last night up hill using a strap and my carbon vipers as the handle. Given that my 95kg weight was also pulling the other way pretty vigorously most the time I feel they would easily support my weight if I needed them to in the same tyle as your admittedly much cheaper hazel branch.
FYI post not intended as a “who has the harder extraction location”, more a real world example of the strength of carbon fibre.
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