Well, I only loaded 7 rounds with N133.
Guess work, so with a bit of help from 30-30 data I started at 34 grains, 34.5, 35, 35.5, 36, 36.5 and 37.
At 50 yards they were stringing vertical but the last 3 were touching each other vertically.
Primers stopped backing out at 35.5 grains with just the slightest hint of the primer changing shape, but not enough to bother about.
Velocities started at 2397 and went up to 2655 Fps.
So it looks like N133 is going to replace 3031 and H4895.
Very pleased that job is finished.
Thanks to all for the help.
Ken.
Ps. Also tried N133 in my Tripple 2.