Shooting community prepares to fight “existential threat”
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It hasn’t changed, not recently anyway.
Good Reason is covered in more detail in the Guide to Firearms Licensing Law.
timbrayford
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That would be great, I even had to send Hampshire FLD a copy of home office guidance!
Cranborne
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Good reason was explained to me by an FEO some years ago as:
SGC: the police must prove you don't have a good reason to own a shotgun.
FAC: you must prove there is a good reason for you to own a firearm.
This Government is anti-shooting and will only seek to make life harder for us. That’s why it's introducing the lead ban sooner than recommended by the HSE.
I doubt moderators will be coming off ticket despite any recommendations made to the Government.
I'm sorry to say but things are likely to get much tougher for us, unless there is a change of Government at the next election.
SGC: the police must prove you don't have a good reason to own a shotgun.
FAC: you must prove there is a good reason for you to own a firearm.
This Government is anti-shooting and will only seek to make life harder for us. That’s why it's introducing the lead ban sooner than recommended by the HSE.
I doubt moderators will be coming off ticket despite any recommendations made to the Government.
I'm sorry to say but things are likely to get much tougher for us, unless there is a change of Government at the next election.
Change of government won't make a jot of difference.
The only thing that could improve the situation for firearms ownership in the UK would be a massive shift in public opinion, and that isn't going to happen unless current firearms owners are prepared to stand up and be counted instead of always trying to hide in the shadows.
And shooting organisation start to engage with the wider population, we have skills the country may need.
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They might do if they knew that their doctor, their dentist, their kids' headmaster, the chap who empties their bins, the nice young couple two doors down, etc etc, ordinary people they have contact with on a regular basis and trust, were all shooters.
But while shooters continue to maintain an attitude of secrecy the breakthrough isn’t going to happen.
I'v yet to fly a drone and my IT skills are carp.And shooting organisation start to engage with the wider population, we have skills the country may need.
UK lacks plan to defend itself from invasion, MPs warn
A highly critical report says the UK does not have the resources it needs to deal with complex military threats.
K
I'm not secret about it, and will talk about it with people if they happen to speak to me when I have a (covered) rifle on the quad, I'll tell them what I'm doing and more importantly why, normally offer to give them a bit of venison to try. Recently I invited two couples to a range day. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just really don't think the average member of public cares, if they did I'm sure they would be having vigils outside of clay grounds
not a problem find a teenager they will show you how, just like you could teach them to shoot
bottletopbill
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This should be a joint fight by all organizations coming together .
We may then stand a chance of fighting this and other issue's
We may then stand a chance of fighting this and other issue's
Perhaps stop relying on fish, they’re known to be unreliable
Deerhunter22
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I think shooting is just a few government policy from being totally finished. The shooting community need to stop hiding in the bushes and need to stand up and make itself known and accepted. This is a one way street the shooting world is on whether it’s clay pigeons or deer stalking ect. Something needs to properly be done and organised. When will enough be enough, they know fine well these proposals do nothing and fix nothing but damage ownership which is what they want and really, whats the obsession for trying to stop ownership ? Why are the so desperate to take guns out of the hands of law abiding people ? Because to my mind that’s all it’s about and funnily enough it seems to be occurring in Canada and Australia simultaneously aswell
Because they can and we are an easy group to target, then they tell the public they are being tough on crime to make themselves look good, has always been that way.
BenBhoy
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But it's not though, it's not stopping any crime whatsoever.
Deerhunter22
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Maybe we need to enact laws on lying and smoke and mirrors when it comes to the bullsh*t MP’s come out with to try justify or blind the reality from the public.
It’s a combination of things.
The press give a disproportionate amount of column inches to gun deaths because they’re rare and can be sensationalised.
Politicians (more so on the left, but I wouldn’t say exclusively) are of the view that if they can’t understand why you’d want to shoot, then no one needs to, so if it’s a risk, why take it.
I do think that US issues (stupidly) feed into it the debate, and those who want to rail against Republicans in this country, feel they can do so ‘by proxy’ by equating our gun laws with the US. That reinforces the above.
Finally, politicians run scared of being accused of standing by and letting something bad happen. Gone are the days when the general consensus was that a free society means the govt can’t control everything, so now the question is always ‘why wasn’t this stopped?’ Because of this something, even if symbolic, must be ‘done’ so that politicians can say they acted.
The press give a disproportionate amount of column inches to gun deaths because they’re rare and can be sensationalised.
Politicians (more so on the left, but I wouldn’t say exclusively) are of the view that if they can’t understand why you’d want to shoot, then no one needs to, so if it’s a risk, why take it.
I do think that US issues (stupidly) feed into it the debate, and those who want to rail against Republicans in this country, feel they can do so ‘by proxy’ by equating our gun laws with the US. That reinforces the above.
Finally, politicians run scared of being accused of standing by and letting something bad happen. Gone are the days when the general consensus was that a free society means the govt can’t control everything, so now the question is always ‘why wasn’t this stopped?’ Because of this something, even if symbolic, must be ‘done’ so that politicians can say they acted.
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