John Gryphon
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and a decent belt back will have snappies drop off whereas the bull breeds just go harder
bull breed again.
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BenBhoy
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Completely disagree their pal. I'd trust a bull type far more than a collie, a poodle, a terrier. I've known far more nippy collies than any other breed. And for a 4 year old kid a collie IS big enough. I've personally known a good few staffys, 2 APBT & 1 Irish staffy all, to a man, have been bombproof. Whereas we had a jack Russel that put me in A&E as a kid.
Im not saying bully types are the best thing ever & everyone should have one. But i wouldn't say that about any breed. But i think each individual should be judged on individual personality.
I knew the guy that owned Juniper Kennels just outside Dundee. The police seized a bull-breed following several 'incidents', and Adam agreed to kennel it. It latched onto his thigh while he was feeding it, and he bled out in the kennel. I'll never like or trust the breed I'm afraid.
Perhaps I need to be clearer though. I don't dislike Staffs, or English Bull Terriers in the slightest. It's the pitbull types that I won't ever trust
Bo Diddley
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Bull breds are more akin to a Mike Tyson.. fcuking strong and mentally unstable..
Jack Russells are more like Alan Carr, plenty of teeth and yap..
Alan Carr on the rampage would be quite funny.. not do much with Iron Mike...
Jack Russells are more like Alan Carr, plenty of teeth and yap..
Alan Carr on the rampage would be quite funny.. not do much with Iron Mike...
Dunwaters
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You’ll get no argument from me, select for size and aggression and youll breed big aggressive dogs .
At risk of making gross generalisations;
As an example, people who keep spaniels is usually a certain tipe and often for a certain purposes, similarly GSP, or deer hounds. You select the dog for their nature.
I suspect that if you were to document every dog bred for fighting you will also trend strong tendencies among owners (and outliers).
Some dogs are arguably more intelligent than their owners. Where people keep dogs more intelligent than themselves or weak willed, the dogs will exert their dominance.
My sister was mauled at 4 years old by a neighbours Labrador/ Doberman cross needing extensive surgery to her face, because the owners kept him locked up in a cage all the time with no socialisation. First time he got out was a disaster. No dobermans are not aggressive dogs. Owners fault.
I was bitten by a Jack Russel, in unprovoked attack, by stroke of luck I survived by getting a tetanus shot and bandaid. He’s also attacked other people. Why doesn’t Jack Russels have a reputation?
Since you ask, I also worry about chihuahuas having lost a bit of skin on occasion and imagine losing a finger or two by the vicious little devils.
Dogs differ and need different levels of training and attention. If owners do not train their dogs appropriately it’s the owners fault since if you don’t lead the pack, they will.
Bo Diddley
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Dobermans are very dangerous.. Jesus, they were created by a German tax collector... how bad could it get... Hitler's wet dream....
BenBhoy
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Exactly mate, yet they're not under a blanket of discrimination? Literally any dog over a certain weight can be absolutely lethal. My auntie & uncle had nothing but rottweiler there entire married life, have countless pictures of me playing with one sometimes two rotties. All of them were bitches & totally gentle with me, yet the couple of times they had intruders on their smallholding, they were different animals so had it in them. But about personality & training.
So is a baby driving a forklift, but they’re not very aggressive either.
Over the years I've had many people bring their dogs to me for behavior modification and a significant number of them were for aggression. These aggressive dogs were, in a generalization of breed type , Cattle Dog/Kelpie type cross breeds but a numerically significant group were the German Wirehair Pointers. I never saw a Rottweiler, Doberman, Bull Terrier type breeds or the small terrier type. Of all these dogs that came to me the only dog that I recommended for euthanasia was a smallish, finely built and very active [hyper?] Kelpi type. The owner declined and kept it but a few weeks later it was in the back seat of his car and he was driving when, without warning or provocation, it attacked and tore the side of his head off. Afterwards he still kept the dog...and no muzzle. Crazy!
The absence of the so called "usual suspects" was intriguing. I eventually ascribed it to one reason to explain their absence. It was the owners refusal to publicly admit that their dog was aggressive and their refusal to seek help was triggered by the fear of legal liability/prosecution if their dog ever bit a person/dog etc.
The absence of the so called "usual suspects" was intriguing. I eventually ascribed it to one reason to explain their absence. It was the owners refusal to publicly admit that their dog was aggressive and their refusal to seek help was triggered by the fear of legal liability/prosecution if their dog ever bit a person/dog etc.
John Gryphon
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Have a look at this list,it shows that Pit Bulls are true ****s.
en.wikipedia.org
List of fatal dog attacks - Wikipedia
Bo Diddley
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Old photo of the police with their Pit Patrol Dogs.
This, coupled with the fact that a certain section of the demographic of bully-type dog owners are actively wanting the macho image of a big scary dog to begin with. People buy a labrador expecting it to have no aggression, people who buy bullies, etc. often want it to (just not when it's attacking their kid...)
But these dogs were bred as guardians, companions, and protectors from the outset. Pitbull types were specifically bred for fighting, bull baiting, and the like. Hence the predilection for aggression and violence were deemed desirable genetic traits. That can't be bred out in a hurry
John Gryphon
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Rotties factor in that wiki list as num 2.
That seems fairly conclusive JG!!Have a look at this list,it shows that Pit Bulls are true ****s.
List of fatal dog attacks - Wikipedia
Interesting / worrying article rgarding the genetics of an extremely popular Bull breeding line - why would anyone want this is their dog's genetics?
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