Swapping scopes between rifles

[Beagle boy]

Good evening everyone
I have recently ordered a a digital day/night scope, I’d like to use it on both my 22-250 and 17hmr.
My 17 is a cz452 and my 22-250 is a tikka t3x.
Am I rite in thinking that if I had a weaver rail then on both rifles I could swap it between then if I got quick release mounts?

Cheers rob

 

[Cyres]

Yes possible esp if your new NV has a decent mount.
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[chrisstorey79]

 

[nf-fuse]

The mount probably is not compatible with weaver. Picatinny yes. The lugs on picatinny are wider.

The scope will probably have multiple zero profiles so it'd easier than with a conventional scope. That includes different ammo in the same gun.

I don't know if I would be confident it would hold perfect zero every swap though.

 

[BenBhoy]

swap it between then if I got quick release mounts?

In theory yeah, just keep track which zero profile goes with each rifle/bullet weight/zero distance. I'd definitely be checking at least couple of rounds after each swap before hunting though.

 

[Beagle boy]

In theory yeah, just keep track which zero profile goes with each rifle/bullet weight/zero distance. I'd definitely be checking at least couple of rounds after each swap before hunting though.

Yeah I don’t know if it’s worth the risk I might just leave it on my hmr. And if I want it on the 22-250 just swap the scope over and have a few shots to zero it. Don’t know if I’d like that feeling of not knowing

 

[Beagle boy]

The mount probably is not compatible with weaver. Picatinny yes. The lugs on picatinny are wider.

The scope will probably have multiple zero profiles so it'd easier than with a conventional scope. That includes different ammo in the same gun.

I don't know if I would be confident it would hold perfect zero every swap though.

I was going to buy a weaver adaptor for the cz and the same for the tikka. But if I havnt got total confidence in it I dont think its worth the risk.
I’ll probably pop it on the .17 and plan on to swap it on the 22-250 when I want it

 

[B&W FOX]

My thermal has 6 zero profiles available in the menu.
I'm comfortable swapping across all my rifles and still keeping zero with q/r mount.
I was sceptical at first but 5 year's down the line I don't have any problems. Twice a year I'll check the zero on them all to make sure nothing has changed.

 

[Jelen]

In theory yeah, just keep track which zero profile goes with each rifle/bullet weight/zero distance. I'd definitely be checking at least couple of rounds after each swap before hunting though.

Got to agree with you. I've gone down that route in the last couple of weeks. Fired 2 groups of 5 shots swapping scope between each shot from .223 to.243 and back.
it grouped good enough for small deer at 100m but 1 shot was 1.5 inches off. I would definitely want to check zero if I was going out for Fox or Munty/Roe at 200m.

 

[Scottb123]

Quality mounts and rails you won’t have an issue consistently mount the same both when you swap my thermal and nv I swap and change betweeen multiple rifles and also take off after each session with no issue I took my 243 out the other night foxing because we had gust of 40 mph wind I haven’t used it for a couple of months mounted the thermal changed the profile had had 3 foxes one at 220 yards but you must use quality mounts leupold rusan reknagel etc and always put them in the right slots I put all mine to rear most slot

 

[Beagle boy]

Quality mounts and rails you won’t have an issue consistently mount the same both when you swap my thermal and nv I swap and change betweeen multiple rifles and also take off after each session with no issue I took my 243 out the other night foxing because we had gust of 40 mph wind I haven’t used it for a couple of months mounted the thermal changed the profile had had 3 foxes one at 220 yards but you must use quality mounts leupold rusan reknagel etc and always put them in the right slots I put all mine to rear most slot

Any mounts you’d recommend?

 

[One on top of two]

I use a Shpur QR mount on my thermal so it can swap between my 22-250 /6.5 PRC
HMR without issues , there not cheap but the RTZ is exceptional .
Just clip on and off as needed .

 

[Scottb123]

Any mounts you’d recommend?

I’d go leupold qrw

 

[2Ll’s]

Good evening everyone
I have recently ordered a a digital day/night scope, I’d like to use it on both my 22-250 and 17hmr.
My 17 is a cz452 and my 22-250 is a tikka t3x.
Am I rite in thinking that if I had a weaver rail then on both rifles I could swap it between then if I got quick release mounts?

Cheers rob

I have Innomount QR on all my scopes, they all have picatinny rails, I switch from glass to thermal regularity on all 5 of them with no zero loss at all.

 

[Liveonce]

I have Innomount QR on all my scopes, they all have picatinny rails, I switch from glass to thermal regularity on all 5 of them with no zero loss at all.

cheaper to buy a second Zulus scope

 

[Donkey Basher]

A word of caution for those using the otherwise, in my opinion, excellent Burris Signature XTR rings.

I have an Alpex sat in a pair of these which enabled my to bring the LRF box in to just above my aiming mark & centrally so I didn’t lose it when increasing the mag.

A few weeks back I took the Alpex off the rifle & popped one of the Diavari 6-24s on it ahead of a Christmas shoot I was going to. The scope had previously been on the rifle & I expected it to be within a ‘knats’ of zero but popped up to the farm to check before the comp as you only have two sighters then 10 to count.

First shot at 100 yards missed an A3 sized target

Brought the target back to 50 yards & next shot clipped the edge of it. Elevation was Bob on though. Made some corrections & all good.

Comp over I popped the Alpex back on & took the opportunity of a range session to check the zero. First shot good for elevation but 450mm to the right .

Slackened off the mounting screws on both rings & retightened them - next shot 150mm to the right. Better but still not what I expected. Anyway was able to fiddle a bit more & got the correct zero established.

Why was this happening?

I can only assume that it’s because the Signature XTR rings have a clamp on both sides of the ring & as such have no fixed datum that can ensure a mechanically repeatable connection between the ring & the rail.

This has been a lesson well learned for me - now the Alpex has been set back up on the rifle it won’t be getting swapped. I had planned to set up a profile so I could swap it onto another rifle at will but that ain’t going to happen now.

A real pity as part from this I like the rings & their ability to use shims to adjust the alignment of the scope itself & allow the reticle to be zeroed without excessive travel.

 

[Mike1979]

I'm just in the process of doing this now as I have picattiny rails on the .243 and 6.5 Creed and want to be able to use the Alpex and Swarovski on both. Ive opted for Tier 1 Monomounts so fingers crossed ...buy once, cry once

 

[robgal]

Got to agree with you. I've gone down that route in the last couple of weeks. Fired 2 groups of 5 shots swapping scope between each shot from .223 to.243 and back.
it grouped good enough for small deer at 100m but 1 shot was 1.5 inches off. I would definitely want to check zero if I was going out for Fox or Munty/Roe at 200m.

Would the one stray shot not be more likely operator error? If it was me shooting I’d put it down to that anyway I’ve just got an ATN X sight 5 and been wondering about switching between rifles so this thread is timely.

 

[Smelly Yeti]

I tried this a while back between my 22.250 & .22 but had the opposite experience of many others on here.

Leupold quick release rings & bases so (whilst not the best that money can buy) certainly not cheap & decent enough quality. Whilst it was simple to set the scope profiles & to switch between rifles I missed a fox at around 175m (22.250) early on in my experiment & lost that nights hunting as I stopped shooting due to not knowing where shot had gone (yet another example of the importance of safe backstops!). On range checking at 100m a couple of days later the POI was approx 4” high

Now…. the big question that I asked myself was what had caused this shift? Profile settings were still the same (& correct one selected!), scope appeared to be mounted correctly (although through repetition the locking levers never seemed to fully engage/grip at exactly same point or ‘torque’) or had I simply made an arse if it & pulled the shot compounding this shift? At the end of the day the fact that I couldn’t firmly establish a cause led to me personally developing a complete lack of confidence in exactly where my round was going to land post swaps & binning the idea. Whilst a miss is not the end of the world, not having 100% confidence over POI/zero when pulling the trigger was completely unacceptable to me (as I’m sure others would agree).

Final point that has also been mentioned was cost. By the time you’ve bought decent QR mounts (with the base systems for 2 rifles) you’re already a good way to the cost of another dedicated scope for your second rifle? Anyway…… just another view point.

 

[Demetrius]

Don't be cheap.....get your rifles one each!

D.