Dog wee

[kenbro]

Hi,
Two of our dogs (Brother & sister, Jack x Manc.) are 16 years old.
Clyde has, we think, Dementia and Bonnie is just old.
Hard as we try to keep putting them outside (Most times they go to the door when they need the loo) enough to prevent accidents they still both pee in the kitchen (Tile floor) and a lounge they have access to.
Every other day I get up at 04.30 to walk our young Border at 05.00, so it carry Bonnie and Clyde outside in their beds and set them down in the garden. They soon awake and climb out of bed for a pee. Clyde will sometimes have peed in bed without waking up.
We don’t want to let them go just yet just because they’re incontinent.
Wifey spends a lot of time cleaning carpets with a carpet cleaner and a steam iron. The smells are still there.
I’ve been googling and see Emzyme cleaners advertised. Are these worth buying?
Anyone else with a similar problem, are there effective nappies for dogs?
Saying goodby ( Though inevitable) is not an option, yet.
Thanks, Ken.

 

[rocketdogbert]

We often adopt old dogs via the RSPCA, ones nobody else wants to home, so have a fair amount of experience.

The best anti-smell thing we have found is bicarbonate of soda, suitably mixed in warm water, works really well for us. And lots of puppy training pads.

It’s a good thing you are doing, but know when it is time to let them go

 

[Malxwal]

Our fourteen year old sprocket gets a form of HRT, a wee pill daily in her grub, has made a huge improvement not only to her incontinence, but to her general energy.

 

[Buchan]

Enzyme products are good, antiodour if it is still available.
I’d suggest getting them checked to make sure it’s not an underlying infection (I doubt it) but d also make sure pain is controlled. I’ve seen a lot of older dogs pee/poo in the house because it’s too painful to squat/cock long enough to fully empty the bladder. 2 week trial of eg metacam will tell you

 

[Camdig]

If on dry food change it to a wet complete food, doing that made a huge difference in the amount of water my old dog drank.
As above bicarbonate of soda is pretty good for smell.

 

[kenbro]

Enzyme products are good, antiodour if it is still available.
I’d suggest getting them checked to make sure it’s not an underlying infection (I doubt it) but d also make sure pain is controlled. I’ve seen a lot of older dogs pee/poo in the house because it’s too painful to squat/cock long enough to fully empty the bladder. 2 week trial of eg metacam will tell you

Re. Pain, Clyde has up to 8 Gabapentin daily. Might this affect his waterworks in any way?
Thanks, Ken.

 

[Foxyboy43]

We often adopt old dogs via the RSPCA, ones nobody else wants to home, so have a fair amount of experience.

The best anti-smell thing we have found is bicarbonate of soda, suitably mixed in warm water, works really well for us. And lots of puppy training pads.

It’s a good thing you are doing, but know when it is time to let them go

You sir and your lady are good folk.
Bloody well done!

 

[Norfolk Horn]

Re. Pain, Clyde has up to 8 Gabapentin daily. Might this affect his waterworks in any way?
Thanks, Ken.

I was on that Gabapentin for pain and it made me feel that I was thinking in slow motion.
I'm not surprised Clyde acts like he has dementia if he is having much of that.
Not knocking you in anyway.

 

[Buchan]

Re. Pain, Clyde has up to 8 Gabapentin daily. Might this affect his waterworks in any way?
Thanks, Ken.

I'm not aware of that as a side effect. Gabapentin is most used for neuropathic pain, or as an add in with things like metacam - unless Clyde can't tolerate NSAIDs

 

[rocketdogbert]

You sir and your lady are good folk.
Bloody well done!

Thank you. It can be very hard, but it’s worth it. Our boy now, an old chocolate lab, is an absolute gent. Loves the chickens and the cats (also all rescues )

 

[rocketdogbert]

Re. Pain, Clyde has up to 8 Gabapentin daily. Might this affect his waterworks in any way?
Thanks, Ken.

One of our oldies was on Gabapentin, Oz the Schnoz (boxer cross staffie, big lad), made him wobbly when he first took it, but didn’t really seem to affect him too much otherwise

 

[CAVHUNT]

That's a lot of Gabapentin. What strength?

Slow release Tramadol can be used in conjunction with Gabapentin for pain. My previous and current Cavs both had/have Syringomyelia [SM]. It's a painful neural disease with no cure - can only treat symptoms. Gabapentin in conjunction with SR Tramadol are what I use.

If the pain is bad and the dog has maxed out on his other pain killers I also use liquid Panadol...which is compatible with Tramadol and Gabapentin. On top of all these Valium can also be used to settle a dog. Have a chat to your vet.

Re incontinence - there is a prescription med which can bring this under control very quickly. I can't recall its name. Sorry. Talk to your vet.

 

[Norfolk Horn]

I'm not aware of that as a side effect. Gabapentin is most used for neuropathic pain, or as an add in with things like metacam - unless Clyde can't tolerate NSAIDs

Well I don't know about dog and that's your department but I can only say how it effected me
I was on it for fybromyalgia pain and then I got a bad back so they increased the dose but I couldn't tolerate it.
In the end I see a pain consultant through my med insurance who immediately took me off the Gabapentin and the difference was night and day.
It could have been Pregabin by then.
Back sorted with xray guide injections.
Result
Sorry I don't want to intrude on this thread but just wanted to clarify.

 

[VSS]

I was on that Gabapentin for pain and it made me feel that I was thinking in slow motion.
I'm not surprised Clyde acts like he has dementia if he is having much of that.
Not knocking you in anyway.

I'm on gabapentin, and I think it's wonderful!
Not noticed any side effects.
What sort of dose rate are we talking about here? I take 3 per day.

 

[Malxwal]

Stuff my wee sprocker gets for incontinence is Incurin.

 

[Norfolk Horn]

I'm on gabapentin, and I think it's wonderful!
Not noticed any side effects.
What sort of dose rate are we talking about here? I take 3 per day.

I honestly can't remember as it was years ago.
I'm glad it works for you, and it just goes to show how different we all are in our reaction to different drugs and food even.

 

[wilf007]

We have a vax and we always make sure you hoover up all the liquid first . So the patch is as dry as possible we then use a decent detergent in the machine to give a final clean. Oh and of course plenty of puppy pads

 

[jb1]

OdorBac Tec4 Odour Eliminator & Cleaner Fresh Linen 5 Litre | Odour Neutraliser | Air Care | Cleaning Products & Air Care | BCHS | BCHS

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This is a very good product for removing smells, used on public transport for removing all sorts of smells.. Not sure if you can get in smaller quantities.