You submit site notification and then wait 5 days. This gives Natural England time to get in touch with you if there are any questions or information required. If nothing heard after 5 working days then you are clear to carry on.
New NE Deer Night Shooting Licence England/Wales (CL55)
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Mr P Jones has released a fairly good summary on CL55 - yes yes I know it's Mr Jones but bare with
He covers the all important topic of insurence, I was waiting on the punchline that he offers it but I don't think so.
QUESTION - I've read on here and in PJ's vid that the Hunting Academy NSC is or can be online only, is that true? No practical to pass?
I had a look into the S&H academy NSC and there is no mention that I can see of a practical exam. There are various multiple choice exams and then a timed final assessment which is also multiple choice.
phillips321
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I thought they had to reply to confirm they are happy with the site? Else we could all bombard them with sites that aren't suitable and their man power wont be able to accommodate the 5 day turn around?
Jeeeze! Thx for the reply
Nickb
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Another silly requirement, scuppers you from going at the drop of a hat when the weather is good.
Imagine giving 5 days notice when you are going out foxing
Hmm I just picked up on that, I'm afraid that don't work for meAnother silly requirement, scuppers you from going at the drop of a hat when the weather is good.
Imagine giving 5 days notice when you are going out foxing
There's no way of this can be the process. What if notification isn't received or due to staffing etc they can't process them in time.
As I've said above, there really needs to be a more comprehensive explanation of the full process. Currently there's loads of people jumping to conclusions based on part information and ambiguous wording.
This is the exact wording you receive back when you register a site. Pretty clear in my eyes.
Thank you for submitting a deer night shooting site notification form under the CL55 class licence to shoot deer at night.
The following site has been registered. You must wait 5 working days from the date of this email before commencing any licensed action on this site. This is to allow time for Natural England to contact you, should we have any queries.
The site notification process includes questions about any SSSIs, European site (SAC, SPA or Ramsar) that falls within your boundary or within 1km or where you intend to use the license. This info is all gained using the provided magic mapping website link.
If I hear nothing back by Friday then I will cracking on as per the instruction received.
monarman
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It does say that There is a bolt on where you can do a practical test.
Originally there wasn't, but since BASC/dmq got involved and decided there's a way of introducing another course it's now the case.
You have to have done a practical test if you are applying for a license having only the dc1.
SussexSteve
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What route did you get your registration number through ?
For myself I applied using category 4. I got a response 3 days later with registration number. Site registration number was received within minute of submitting site notification.
I have just had another look and can't see anywhere that mentions a bolt on.
Night Shooting Course
The LANTRA Accredited Course is now recognised as a suitable qualification for those seeking a night licence to shoot deer, ensuring your skills are fully current, relevant, and compliant with government guidance
www.shootingandhuntingacademy.co.uk
Maybe I missed it? I have looked at doing the course at some point. Undecided on provider yet.
I find it amazing that it is all automatically approved. They're purely relying on the applicant to state that they've exhausted all other legal means of good management and fit the rather ambiguously worded requirements??
For myself I applied using category 4. I got a response 3 days later with registration number. Site registration number was received within minute of submitting site notification.
monarman
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I can't find it now either.... but if you intend to apply for a night licence and only have dsc1 it states you must also have a night shooting qualification that includes a practical shooting test at night.I have just had another look and can't see anywhere that mentions a bolt on.
Night Shooting Course
The LANTRA Accredited Course is now recognised as a suitable qualification for those seeking a night licence to shoot deer, ensuring your skills are fully current, relevant, and compliant with government guidance
Maybe I missed it? I have looked at doing the course at some point. Undecided on provider yet.
So if shooting and hunting academy aren't including a practical assessment on their course it won't be valid (according to the gov. Website about cl55) the DMQ course has a practical element.
The shooting and hunting academy brought out their course a bit early and didnt really think about the practical side, whereas BASC/DMQ were in talks with natural england and developed their course on the back of that.
I don't think some people have read the criteria properly before thinking of applying...
devon deer stalker
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Mr P Jones has released a fairly good summary on CL55 - yes yes I know it's Mr Jones but bare with
He covers the all important topic of insurence, I was waiting on the punchline that he offers it but I don't think so.
QUESTION - I've read on here and in PJ's vid that the Hunting Academy NSC is or can be online only, is that true? No practical to pass?
07:25, kind of backs up what I've said in the past and that grey area, when does recreational cross into a commercial activity and insurance required, I hate to be the one I told you so when the shooting orgs say 'sorry your activity is now viewed as commercial' and you lose everything.
phillips321
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Can we get confirmation from BASC as to if their insurance still covers us? @Conor O'Gorman ?
nf-fuse
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I think it's only once per site. Once it's registered that's it. You and other people with a registration under cl55 can use the site.Another silly requirement, scuppers you from going at the drop of a hat when the weather is good.
Imagine giving 5 days notice when you are going out foxing
Dan Newcombe
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That’s the whole point surely.
I might be alone in thinking this isn’t entirely a bad system, maybe with some polishing to be done as it works itself out.
You register all your ground that you think requires night shooting, wait 5 days (I suppose like prior notification in planning) and then crack on if you don’t hear anything. If they are under resourced and don’t get to all the applications it works better because you don’t actually need the go ahead, just to have registered.
Up here nigh licenses are very easy to get, you ask and they give it to you but you have to individually register every single one and get it approved which is a pest when there are a lot of different sites to keep track of, you have to tell the police you are out and finished but I used to do that on my way to the ground so that was easier.
My issue actually comes more with the wildly restrictive requirements on equipment which seem frankly ludicrous.
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