Norfolk Deer Search
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It can beAnd it's hard work in daylight!
It can beAnd it's hard work in daylight!
That it is with some species, but much easier than in the darkAnd it's hard work in daylight!
That’s where the qualification and experience requirement comes in.What were all forgetting is the animal welfare situation of shooting at night, especially by those who think they know what their doing, but really have no clue.
We weren't rich like you, a catty, clay marbles or ballbearings. A half moon, windy night, no lamp needed.No, just a misspent youth knocking pheasants out of trees at night with a .410 and a lamp.
I quite enjoyed it, wish it was still going on, as do the farmers!Done it during NE cull. Pain in the ass
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Rich in quality of life maybe, but certainly not in money!We weren't rich like you, a catty, clay marbles or ballbearings. A half moon, windy night, no lamp needed.
I've already decided, I'm getting too old to be dragging red deer around after dark, sod that, when/if I do it I will be doing it an 2 hours before sunrise, that way by the time I've got everything in place to extract the beast it's only going to get lighter as the sun appears.Maybe just don’t worry about the numbers and enjoy your stalking, there’s better things to do that drag dead deer about at night that’s for sure.
Definitely the farmers and wildlife.I quite enjoyed it, wish it was still going on, as do the farmers!
Does you son actually do any stalking and if so, what does he think of it? Is it just circumstance? Would he prefer to stalk some nice woodland during daylight with good deer numbers or would he not exchange that for lamping?Think my son might be one of the ones you dislike in the next gen - we have a ‘stalking lamp’
It’s not all bad - you daytime creepers don’t seem to be holding your end up with regard to numbers and environmental damage
I must admit that I considered myself very rich when I bought my first Hornet. Also sad, but wealthy beyond belief when I was given Grampa's 7x57 and 12 bore sidelock after his funeral.Rich in quality of life maybe, but certainly not in money!
I still have that same .410 now. It was my father's. I remember him buying it in Radcliffes in Colchester. I must've been about 10 years old. I felt very proud walking alongside him through the hustle and bustle of Christmas shoppers in the town centre, him striding along with the gun under his arm.*
How times have changed!
(* It was wrapped up in brown paper, but nonetheless unmistakably a gun).
Apologies for the thread deviation -Rich in quality of life maybe, but certainly not in money!
I still have that same .410 now. It was my father's. I remember him buying it in Radcliffes in Colchester. I must've been about 10 years old. I felt very proud walking alongside him through the hustle and bustle of Christmas shoppers in the town centre, him striding along with the gun under his arm.*
How times have changed!
(* It was wrapped up in brown paper, but nonetheless unmistakably a gun).
Probably a woodland full of deer, but that is the exact problem, people are managing areas for the own needs and wants rather than hitting the deer numbers down, hard. That’s why the government are changing the rules and making it easier to go out and kill as many deer as possible.Does you son actually do any stalking and if so, what does he think of it? Is it just circumstance? Would he prefer to stalk some nice woodland during daylight with good deer numbers or would he not exchange that for lamping?
Shooting at night is purely a management tool and nothing else...its not stalking.
Whilst fallow etc are not stupid it takes very little skill to get close to them at night compared to in the day. However numbers need managing in some areas and it seems that this will assist in that process.
Like all things I am sure it will be open to abuse but that is true at the moment with people illegally shooting deer at night.
It matters not a jot
what time of day they're shot,
Or even in the night
when the mozzies like to bite,
provided that it's done humanely and efficiently, and the carcasses are treated with respect (ie, processed cleanly and not wasted).
(Sorry, got a bit carried away there at the start. Thought we were on the limerick thread!)
There's a lot of deer out there. I think there's got to be a shift in priority/mindset from "sporting" to producing top quality venison from this fantastic natural resource. Night shooting will be a useful tool in the box from that perspective.Agree on the the last point after mozzies lol
Given the decent kit out there I have no issues with night shooting ... though I feel its an easy excuse for some who neither have the skill or desire to try and manage deer during the day (though not saying this is true for the majority).
Agreed but lets see what impact this has on either prices at the game dealer or pressure on people to take head shots. Given some on night licences can shoot 40 or 50 fallow in one night it wont take many doing that to fill the chillers.There's a lot of deer out there. I think there's got to be a shift in priority/mindset from "sporting" to producing top quality venison from this fantastic natural resource. Night shooting will be a useful tool in the box from that perspective.
So much easier as well. Bag, tag and drop in the allocated bin.Definitely the farmers and wildlife.